14 Oct
2011
14 Oct
'11
12:23 p.m.
+1 too,
Thanks,
Marius
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:33, Guillaume Lerouge
<guillaume(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
Hi,
after thinking about it (and an IRL discussion with Vincent) here's my
updated point of view on this:
- Have a private mailing list for committers
- If a committer feels that it's time for a contributor to become a
committer, he suggests her on the private mailing list
- Discussion on the private list ensues, committers decide whether the
contributor is ready or not
- If the contributor is not deemed ready, the process stops
- If the contributor is deemed ready, the proposer talks to her privately
and asks her whether she would be interested in becoming a committer
- If she's not interested, the process stops
- If she's interested, a public vote is launched on the devs mailing
list
This way the vote is still public and non-committers can voice their
feedback, but there is a central location for the initial discussion
(instead of the proposer having to go and talk to every committer privately
on Skype, IRC and the like). We also keep the benefits of people standing
publicly by their votes.
WDYT?
I have refrain myself from adding to the discussion until now since I was
strongly -1 initially, but presented this way, I am now +1. I would add
that, anything that a commiter do not feel ready for public discussion could
be discussed on this private ML, but that nothing could be decide there
without a public vote. This is already what we could do by skype or other
direct discussion, and it therefore does not change anything to the current
transparency of the project governance.
Denis
Guillaume
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)winesquare.net
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wrote:
Hi,
I know Vincent retracted this vote for now, but just for the record
and for the balance, I would definitely have +1'd.
I support especially the point that it's tough to express reserves on
someone's work publicly, even in an open world. And that in the end we
might tend to just not do it when we should.
Jerome
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
very
Hi devs,
There are a few topics that are not supposed to be public or that would
be better
be not public.
>
> One such topic is when we want to VOTE someone as a committer. It's uncomfortable to do this in the open for the
following reasons:
person
* committers are tempted to VOTE +1 since voting
negatively is seen
publicly, including by the person being voted on
> * it's very undelicate to have this in the open especially if the is voted down since that'll affect that
person's morale and future
participation in the project
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So I'd like to propose creating a committers(a)xwiki.org list with the
following
characteristics:
* private, visible only to committers
I also propose it to use it for voting committers.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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