Re: [xwiki-devs] OpenCollective for XWiki Community

On 20 Mar 2019, at 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote: We could spend a lot of time adjusting large donations tiers information. I would like us to just create the OpenCollective page. Having just the €5 tier would be better than nothing.

If we have flexible tiers, people can donate as much as they want, if they choose to support us. The tiers can be adjusted afterwards when we learn more about the platform and how it works. I need someone that is an Owner of xwiki-platform Github repository to handle the process. Thanks, Caty On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:01 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) &lt;valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:47 PM Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; wrote: > >> Another point: >> >> * There are only recurring donations. I believe we also need one shot >> ones, don’t you think? >> > > IMO I prefer more the recurring donations, since the members can always > stop the donation. So recurring always includes one time donations. > In order to prevent selection paralysis we should not have that many > options to choose from. I've already proposed 5, but I'm sure we will have > at least 4. If we also add the one time donations is going to add up. > > >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> On 19 Mar 2019, at 13:46, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; wrote: >>> >>> Hi Caty and all, >>> >>>> On 19 Mar 2019, at 12:11, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) &lt;valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Please vote on the Tiers we should have on XWiki's OpenCollective page >>>> https://goo.gl/forms/qTDsxt1GvpU0ET3n2 >>> >>> * What is a member? >>> * For me the Tshirt is not part of the title but it’s a reward. >>> * Issue sponsor isn’t defined well enough. You seem to indicate 1 issue >> only… which is low. Is it 1 issue per release? Also needs some limits on >> the complexity (such as < 2 days of work). I would put 2000 euros for 2 >> days of work since the goal is not to do service work but to sponsor the >> sofware and by doing so you get a reward. So it has to be higher than if >> you were just paying for an issue. So I would put 2000 euros for max of 2 >> days issues per month. 1000 euros for 1 day is also possible but reduces a >> lot the type of issues that can be taken. >>> * For all of them I find the description too weak. We need to explain >> where the money goes in more details IMO. Also what about XWiki SAS’s >> current sponsoring. Why would anyone want to give when XWiki SAS gives >> already? This is not explained. >>> * Support Sponsor is interesting but it should be 1000 euros per month >> and be limited to 2 hours IMO. >>> >>> Regarding Issue sponsor and Support Sponsor there’s an issue though. >> It’s not clear where the money goes and what it’ll be used for. Imagine, >> for example, that Clemens does an Issue sponsor. Does some part of the >> money go to him? If not, what is it used for and how does it benefit >> Clemens globally? >>> >>> So I really think we need to explain what the money is going to be used >> in details, on top of what XWiki SAS already sponsors. That should be our >> first step IMO. >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Caty >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:26 PM Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I’d say that we should start with opencollective for now. >>>>> >>>>> We can always add more later on. But the importance is to get started. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent >>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Mar 2019, at 16:39, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> For the record: OpenCollective's 'competitor' >>>>> https://communitybridge.org, >>>>>> still in early access, but launched by Linux Foundation ( >>>>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/) >>>>>> >>>>>> We could use the CommunityBridge in parallel with OpenCollective. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:20 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ping >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 5:22 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi devs, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is a proposal for the content we would have if we were to >> create >>>>> an >>>>>>>> OpenCollective account for XWiki. >>>>>>>> Take a look at >>>>>>>> >> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOpenCollective >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The issues we need to solve / validate are: >>>>>>>> A. Decide on the URL name (xwiki is already taken by XWiki SAS) >>>>>>>> B. See if XWiki SAS can act like our Fiscal host >>>>>>>> C. Validate the tiers and content >>>>>>>> >>>>> >> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOpenCollective#HTiers >>>>>>>> (we might need more details on how the "Bug Fixer" works in case we >>>>> agree >>>>>>>> to it) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let me know what you think, >>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>