5 Mar
2009
5 Mar
'09
5:55 p.m.
Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
Thomas Mortagne wrote:
1/ this problem was there already and, if we use meaningful spaces, we only get
rid of the problem because users wouldn't be able to nicely format the
tables/lists/etc at all. So meaningful spaces means that you're taking away the
possibility of nicely formated wiki syntax even to users that use _only_ wiki
syntax and therefore could take advantage of it.
2/ as it was mentioned in a discussion we once had with Vincent, I'm wondering
how many wiki syntax users will there be out there once we get the new wysiwyg
strong enough. Otherwise put, is this use-case frequent enough?
Happy coding,
Anca
Hi devs,
We have to make a decision about that.
So here are the proposals:
1) remove the block leading and trainling spaces
* The main goal is to make source formatting for tables for example
more readable
2) make the spaces inside paragraph non meaningfull
* Meaning an HTML like behavior where multiple spaces give one space
3) in case of 1) or 2) use ~<space> as non breaking space
WDYT ?
-0, the users will blame the WYSIWYG for messing up their nicely
formatted table/lists/etc. when switching between the editors. This will
make the WYSIWYG unusable for a wiki syntax user.
Marius
+0,5 for 1) it's not critical for me but
i'm not against it and we
already decided to remove space before list item, headers etc.
-0 for 2) I don't see the need for that and it's a lot easier for the
parser to make spaces meaningfull (what to do when you have "test **
bold**" and things like that)
+1 for 3)
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 15:44, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
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This is our last chance to change this behavior. We've found several
places where having meaningful spaces are counter-productive:
* in table cells since we can't align table anymore. For example:
|= column1 |= column2
| this is some para | second column
| hello | world
(not sure this will be rendered nicely in mail but you see what I mean)
* in scripts since having meaningful spaces prevents us from aligning
velocity or groovy scripts. For ex we can't write:
#if (....)
#if (...)
do something
# end
#end
To see a better example have a look at http://tinyurl.com/ahz669
What I think users real want are meaningful new lines but I see cons
overweighting pros for having meaningful white spaces. Thus I'm think
we should strip whitespaces at beginning and end of lines including
for line breaks.
I'm slightly less sure for multiple spaces between words but even
there I think we could strip them have users use {{{ }}} to put a non
breaking space for ex (or introduce a {{space/}} macro or another
special syntax although I'd rather we don't introduce a new syntax).
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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