Still haven't found a solution for the avatar's group image, but the thing
is that when the user selects to receive the diffs in the mail, this user
grouping is confusing.
For some events we display just the last change, not all the changes, or we
display the whole diff, so it's kind of hard to tell which user did what.
A solution would be to display the entries separate, each with its own
diff. Not sure what is the best approach.
Thanks,
Caty
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2017, at 15:15, Ecaterina Moraru
(Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
> On 30 Oct 2017, at 12:27, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Caty,
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> There’ s something I don’t understand. Sometimes you have 2 icons and
>>> sometimes only 1.
>>>
>>
>> There is only 1 icon if the action is done by the "Pages" app, coming
> from
>> XWiki.
>> I've considered that this is the main/default app, so we don't display
> it.
>> It's the default.
>> So if you have created, edited, delete, commented on a normal page, you
> get
>> just the event action.
>> If the page is special, coming from a particular application, then you
> have
>> an additional icon, marking the application.
>
> I find this highly confusing for my part :)
>
>> For me we always need 2 icons:
>>> * one to represent the application (e.g. Pages app, Blog app, etc)
>>> * one to represent the event (e.g. for the Paged app: Create, Modify,
>>> Delete, Comment. For the Blog app: Publish a blog post)
>>>
>>> So if we display the avatar this means 3 icons: one for the avatar,
one
>>> for the app and one for the event.
Maybe that’s a bit too much.
>>>
>>> Right now, on the proposals I see, I find it very confusing and I can
>>> never figure out which is the app and which is the event.
>>>
>>> I think I would prefer the following:
>>> * On the left, avatar in big + app in smaller on top of it
>>> * On the right, icon for the event. Actually the icon could be in
> addition
>>> to the “text” (i.e. “edited by”, “published by”, “commented by”,
> “deleted
>>> by”, etc) or we could drop the icon for the event and only keep the
> text.
>>>
>>
>> I wouldn't drop the event icon since that's the most important piece of
>> information now.
>
> I would not drop it but it’s already contained in the text on the right
so
> that’s duplication.
>
> I’d use the avatar + the app and leave the event icon on the right or
> simply drop it in favor of the text (either one).
>
>> The grouping is done by page and by event.
>> You want to know if someone deleted a new entry or just edited in a
rapid
>> way, without the need to read the text.
>
> I’d prefer to see who did something and what they modified. That’s
really
how I use
XWiki’s AS the most personally.
If the text is not visual enough the event icon is ok too but I wouldn’t
put it on the left.
In any case, you need consistency and all entries need to look the same.
We must not have special cases as it makes it very hard to understand.
For me it was confusing seeing "Pages", since in XWiki everything is a
page
and I don't have any application called
Pages. I saw the addition of
"Pages" as redundant.
>
>>
>>> In your variations I don’t see one where the app icon is on the left.
>>>
>>
>> I have put all the icons on the left in order to be easier to scan for
> them
>> in collapsed and expanded form. Having the icons on the right made the
>> layout very centered-heavy + you didn't had the extremities in order to
>> scan for them.
>>
>> So Guillaume and Clement like the event-focused view.
>>
>> I don't particularly like the big event icons. I find them more cold
and
>> less personal. So I prefer the
users-centered version.
>
> Same here for the same reason, but… (see below)
>
>> I like:
>>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
> NotificationsImprovements9xTypes/userCentered_smallAvatars_reverse.png
>
> I don’t like the generic group image, it breaks the nice UI with
avatars.
We could
maybe resize the avatars and display up to 4 and if beyond then
display some continuations symbol.
Not really sure how to display 4 avatars + in a nice way, while still
being
the main focus.
There’s another problem too actually. Not all events are related to
people. For example the “A new version of XWiki is available” event would
not have an avatar. However we could decide to use an “X” icon,
representing the
xwiki.org entity/avatar.
What I wouldn’t like is some generic image such as a bland group image. I
find that this breaks the concept of showing avatars.
Thanks
-Vincent
>> Now I haven't created versions for all the combinations, but we should
>> decide if:
>> - we want user focused vs. event focused layout
>> - expanded version should have users or events on the left;
>> - the summary should contain avatars or not for the users (important
when
>> there is a single user that did the
event);
>> - if / when we combine the users (when we have more than 2/3 users;
> always;
>>
>> I am lacking some information in order to get some statistical
decisions.
>> For example, in practice:
>> - we have more individual events or more events done by multiple
people?
>> - how common is to group also events? the
example with blog published
> that
>> also has the create. Do we really need to display them? Also when
> creating
>> an user profile we launch a multitude of edit events, should all those
be
>> displayed?
>>
>> Regarding the user vs. event focused layout: it's just in the layout
and
>> what we display on the first position,
since I've kept the current
>> page/event grouping that is currently implemented. The decision depends
> on
>> how everyone is using the wiki: are they more interested in activity
> being
>> done on the wiki or who actually did that activity?
>
> Both are needed and it depends on the usage I guess. My feeling is that
> humans are good at relationships in a group and a picture speaks more
than
> a generic icon for an app. You know who you
work with, you know people
you
> like, you know who you consider is a
stranger, etc and you’ll want to
check
> the diff and dive further based on that. The
fact that the avatar is
shown
> prominently will help that.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>> I like to see who did what, but if the Notifications implementation
will
>> always group users and we will get the
Group icon, than this might not
be
>> very nice.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Caty
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 27 Oct 2017, at 17:31, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So these are some more iterations for the notifications layout
>>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
> NotificationsImprovements9xTypes
>>
>> I've played with User centered vs. Event centered and variants for
>> displaying the avatars, user names and event names.
>>
>> Let me know what version you prefer. Also you can fork the prototypes
if
>>> you want to make some small changes.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caty
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 11:24, Guillaume Delhumeau <
>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-10-24 11:12 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:58, Guillaume Delhumeau <
>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any news on this? I'd like to implement this quickly
because 9.10
> is
>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This the current status:
>>>>>>> * Caty proposed some improved layout for displaying
notifications
>>>>>>> * I commented about the need to display event + type, and
about
the
>>> need
>>>>>>> to have a link to see the diff. I also mentioned that we need
to
> work
>>> on
>>>>>>> the mail template display
>>>>>>> * Caty replied and updated her proposal to take into account
those
>>>>>>> comments.
>>>>>>> * I kind of like Caty’s proposal focused on the user. We want
to
> favor
>>>>>>> contributions and I think it helps. It also makes the UI
more
>>> appealing
>>>>>>> visually.
>>>>>>> * You mentioned that you’d prefer a proposal more focused on
the
> event
>>>>>>> rather than the user
>>>>>>> * Thomas agrees with you
>>>>>>> * Edy mentioned some extra points
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have also mentioned that the diff we propose is too technical
for
>>> many
>>>>>> users.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes and we have 4 solutions:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Solution 1: make it simpler to understand for everyone
>>>>> * Solution 2: have a wiki admin UI level option to select whether to
>>>>> include diff or not in the default template + user-level profile UI
>>> option
>>>>> (ie. per user)
>>>>> * Solution 3: have a singe button in the mail, that, when clicked,
>>>>> displays the diff (which is hidden by default)
>>>>> * Solution 4: implement 2 mail templates (one for simple users and
one
>>> for
>>>>> advanced users) and let the users choose in their profile which one
> they
>>>>> want to receive + have a wiki admin UI level option to decide which
is
>>> the
>>>>> default when not overridden by the user.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I guess we need to decide about whether we show the avatar
as
in
>>>>> Caty’s
>>>>>>> proposal or not, right? Is that what you’re asking about
Guillaume?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On my side, I don’t see the issue in displaying the user
avatar
> large
>>> vs
>>>>>>> small. The events are still ordered by page events.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-10-23 13:19 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau <
>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Note that you have a mail template for the
notifications too.
It's
>>>>>>>>>
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/blob/
>>>>>>>>>
83b76ed4c26954aa2755bbdce23b32c41725ac06/xwiki-platform-
>>>>>>>>> core/xwiki-platform-notifications/xwiki-platform-
>>>>>>>>>
notifications-ui/src/main/resources/XWiki/Notifications/
>>>>>>>>> MailTemplate.xml#L23 but it's not documented
yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This mail template allows you to customize the header
and the
> footer
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the email, but not the actual content.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To be precise, each *event type* can have its own
template or
>>> failback
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the default one
(
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/blob/
>>>>>>>>>
acdf68f4c0d20a9b44ea48eec4df808e22c54548/xwiki-platform-
>>>>>>>>> core/xwiki-platform-web/src/main/webapp/templates/
>>>>>>>>> notification/email/default.html.vm)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So it's a template *per event type* and it's
not linked to any
> user
>>>>>>>>> choice. But we could add some options in the default
template
for
>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-17 16:23 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Oct 2017, at 07:16, Guillaume Delhumeau
<
>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some ideas.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have feedback about the fact the diff is
way too technical
for
>>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Example: "What does it means???"
https://img15.hostingpics.net/
>>>>>>>>>>>
pics/670307example1.png
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So we could hide this in a "technical
details" link.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That’s one option but there’s another which is to
provide the
>>> ability
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> choose which mail template to use in the Admin
and provide
> several
>>>>>>>>>> templates for different needs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For example for the
xwiki.org watchlist we
absolutely need to
be
>>> able
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> see the diffs without clicking a “technical details” link
for
each
>>>>>>>> notification. It
could be ok if there’s a single “technical
> details”
>>>>> link
>>>>>>>> for ALL notifications that shows all diffs at once.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The "details" link could be replaced by a
"more" link, with a
very
>>>>>>>>>> simplified diff (the complete diff would go the
the technical
>>>> details
>>>>>>>>> view).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the body of the event, in addition with the
title of the
>>>> document,
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> could add some extracts of the diff.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Example taken on gmail:
>>>>>>>>>>
https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/763456example2.png
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope it helps,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-12 15:38 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net
:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks nice. Does it work in all mail
clients that support
HTML?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like an option to show the
details for all events as
>>> otherwise
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> too painful to have to open all one by
one (for the use case
> when
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>> to check everything).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Same as Guillaume: not all events are
page-related events. So
> we
>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> handle those too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Oct 2017, at 15:03, Guillaume
Delhumeau <
>>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, it looks very nice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, you said the events are
displayed like in the
>>> notifications,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the notifications they are ordered by
dates, not by pages.
> Does
>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal imply to change the
ordering? What about events
that
> do
>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> concern any page (like: "a new
wiki has been created" or "a
> new
>>>>>>> XWiki
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version is available")? We
don't have such events for now
but
> we
>>>>>>> plan
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have some soon. We could display them
last for example.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice CSS expand!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-12 14:47 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina
Moraru (Valica) <
>>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a proposal for the
Notifications mail:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9xEmail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've continued with the
'user' avatar focused proposal,
since
>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently focused on the email
template. If we drop the
user
>>>>> avatar
>>>>>>>>>>>> (since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we group multiple users) then we
can have the event/app
icon
>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avatar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I want to have feedback on
is the email layout,
>>>>> functionality
>>>>>>>>>> (tree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation, details expanding)
and styling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with the Prototype
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://jsfiddle.net/risherry/cj25759w/embedded/#Result
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we were to translate to the
mail template, there are
still
>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be tested (like translating
the CSS selectors into
inline,
>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email clients we support, etc.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:51 PM,
Guillaume Delhumeau <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-03 17:32 GMT+02:00
Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>>>>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at
10:50 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-02 18:09
GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <
>>> vincent(a)massol.net
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct
2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol <
>>> vincent(a)massol.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct
2017, at 18:05, Vincent Massol <
>>>>> vincent(a)massol.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another
feedback/questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Is the
avatar icon clickable and leading to the
user
>>>>>>> profile?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * We need
a way to link directly to the diff, at
least
>>> for
>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that the user
can see what was modified (as we have
>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Maybe “2
hours ago” is not precise enough. In your
>>>>> example I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created and
modified the Roadmap page but they both say
> “2
>>>>>>> hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago”.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn’t I be
able to see how far away both events
were
>>>>> done?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding
is that events are grouped by app+type
> but
>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore (for page
events) and thus you can have 3
events
>>>>>>>>>>
displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same page, f.ex:
Creation, Modification, Deletion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you could also
have different users grouped in the
> same
>>>>>>>>>> composite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> event. So when you
display the details, it would be nice
> to
>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made each event, and
I see you have removed this info.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The focus of this
proposal is on user, compared to the
old
>>> one,
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the app/doc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Close to what we have on
Facebool. So it didn't made
sense
>>> that
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a page has been edited by
vmassol, and that the details
>>>>> showcase
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple user actually
did the edit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Facebook, you have it
actually:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://pasteboard.co/GOioRAT.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On XWiki, we have the
following (already implemented):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://pasteboard.co/GOiqgYf.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2
Oct 2017, at 18:01, Vincent Massol <
>>>>> vincent(a)massol.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
valicac(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Event Type: BlogPostPublishedEvent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
NotificationsImprovements9x#HEventTypes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok
thanks, had missed this since I was reading from
> top
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopped at the
overview :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
However I don’t think it scales since it means one
>>> unique
>>>>>>> icon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of
app type + event type.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What
would scale better is two icons: one for the
app
>>> type
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the event type.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For
example imagine that the Blog app had the
> following
>>>>>>>>>> events:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
When a blog post is published
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
When a blog post is created
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
When a blog post is removed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
wouldn’t be able to use the RSS icon to
represent
>>> the
>>>>> 3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW
the RSS icon isn’t necessarily representative of
> the
>>>>>>> Blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of apps can
have a RSS feed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That’s the main remark I have: it’s going to be
harder
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find unique icons
as we had more events to apps,
> especially
>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 icon that is
supposed to combine both app type +
event
>>>>> type.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
WDYT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
-Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Caty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Vincent Massol <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vincent(a)massol.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi Caty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21, Ecaterina Moraru
(Valica)
> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
valicac(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I've created some improvements suggestions for
our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notifications
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UI, see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
NotificationsImprovements9x
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Let me know what you think.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Re the overview, I don’t see where you mention the
>>> app?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
For example, could you show how a new Blog post
> would
>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
differentiate that for example from a Page
creation
> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modification?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
-Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Caty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau
(guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research &
Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the
XWiki.org project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau
(guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development
Engineer at XWiki SAS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the
XWiki.org
project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau
(guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer
at XWiki SAS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the
XWiki.org project
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau
(guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki
SAS
>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the
XWiki.org project
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>>>>>>>>> Committer on the
XWiki.org project
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>>>>>>>> Committer on the
XWiki.org project
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>>>>>> Committer on the
XWiki.org project