4 Apr
2017
4 Apr
'17
2:16 p.m.
Hi,
As I`ve mentioned in the other mail, I`d prefer "Base" or "Minimal"
(as
Vincent mentioned as well), mainly because I would not want users to be
encouraged to use it directly, but instead, to use a flavor that builds on
top of the Base and brings value (like the "Standard" flavor does).
Now, I`m getting a bit confused here as to the nature of this base flavor.
Is it a flavor or is it a distribution? Do we also have an XWiki "Base"
distribution (war) that is slimmed down to support at least the XWiki Base
*flavor*, and anything else will be installed with EM, according to what
any additional "extended" flavor instructs (i.e. through its dependencies)?
Thanks,
Eduard
On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
If we want to use this flavor as a dependency for the
other Flavors that
will be built on top, than I would like it to be called just "XWiki", so
your 1).
All the other flavors built on top would have composed names like "XWiki
KB", "XWiki Groupware", etc.
Otherwise my vote goes to 3) Base or Basic.
I think we should first define what this contains. For me it should not
just be EM, but all the default XWiki capabilities to create content: from
administration, to users, to templates, to editors, to viewers, to
livetable, to navigation, etc. :)
Thanks,
Caty
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com
wrote:
> >> On 3 Apr 2017, at
17:22, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>> On 3 Apr 2017, at 16:18, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi devs,
> >>>>
> >>>> Since 8.0 we have in xwiki-platform a flavor simply called
"XWiki
> >>>> Flavor" which contains more or less the strict minimum to
have
> >>>> something you can call an XWiki instance (Administration,
Extension
> >>>> Manager, a home page, etc.).
> >>>>
> >>>> Since we want to promote the new Knowledge Base flavor have a
> >>>> concurrent called "XWiki" is not really making it a favor
so we
should
> > My point is that we should
only offer 2 things:
> > 1) the KB flavor
> > 2) or let the user not choose any flavor and have an empty wiki (no
wiki
> pages and minimal set of core extensions)
> So you want to remove this flavor.
You don't need to install any
> flavor to have an empty wiki.
> > > What is the “XWiki Flavor” right now? You mentioned that
it contained
> wiki pages (such as home page):
> > > "contains more or less
the strict minimum to have
> > something you can call an XWiki instance (Administration, Extension
> > Manager, a home page, etc.).”
> > > This doesn’t look like the
minimum to me.
> > > So the first thing to agree
is about the scope of this “base” flavor.
> Then we can name it.
> When it was introduced it was defined
as the flavor containing what we
> think is common to any kind of flavor, the core UI extensions
> basically like you have the core jar extensions on the WAR side.
> > > If it’s a minimal empty flavor then the best name for me
are:
> > - “Minimal"
> > - "Base"
> > > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> > >> Thanks
> >>> -Vincent
> >>>
> >>>> I don't think keeping "XWiki" is such a great idea.
Default is even
> worst.
> >>>>
> >>>> I like "Lite" but might sound too much like "the
very limited free
> >>>> version, you are going to have advertisement in a month"
theses
days.
> --
> Thomas Mortagne
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
> >>>> probably find another name for
it.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some ideas:
>>>>
>>>> 1) "XWiki" Flavor, it's Ok after all
>>>> 2) "Default" Flavor
>>>> 3) "Base” Flavor
>>>
>>>> 4) "Lite" Flavor
>>>> 5) "Mini" Flavor
>>>> 6) "Minimum" Flavor
>>>> 7) "Pico" Flavor
>>>> 8) <another word that means small> Flavor
>>>
>>> This raises a question: Why do we have such a flavor? I don’t think
we
need one if we have the KB flavor.
>>>
>>
>>> The only flavor that would make sense to me is a “Base” flavor that
is
**empty** (ie no wiki pages) and that serves as a
common base minimum for
other flavors. It would contain the bare minimum to have an XWiki
runtime.
> >>
> >> Note sure what is your point exactly. You want to discuss if it's
> >> allowed to install it as flavor or if it's only a dependency of
> >> another flavor ?
> >>>>
>>>> If I had to vote for only one it would be "Mini" but I'm
fine with
any
> >>>> of the following proposals.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> --
> >>>> Thomas Mortagne
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thomas Mortagne
>