Hi Caleb,
See below
On 10 Nov 2015 at 09:51:04, Caleb James DeLisle
(cjd@cjdns.fr(mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr)) wrote:
>
>
> On 10/11/15 09:40, vincent(a)massol.net wrote:
> >
> > On 10 Nov 2015 at 09:23:12, Thomas Mortagne
> > (thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com(mailto:thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com)) wrote:
> >
> >> IMO we should get rid of this old "The wiki documents (all the
> >> documents in the default .xar archive) are distributed under
> >> Creative
> >> Commons (CC-BY)” runtime message because:
> >> * when you install XWiki you end up with that in the footer and most
> >> people don't touch (and probably don't really understand) it and we
> >> should not choose for them the default license of theire own pages
> >> * we already license our page sources under LGPL and I don't see the
> >> point in having two licenses
> >
> > Was added by Sergiu in:
> >
> >
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/License?viewer=changes&rev1=3.…
> >
> > It was following a discussion at
> >
http://markmail.org/message/wfewnlkcbaa64whq
> >
> > I think using CC-BY for the content is a good idea since we want our
> > users to be able to change the wiki page content without having to
> > redistribute their changes as LGPL. For example someone wanting to make a
> > flavor and modify some wiki pages. Unless we wish to force them to
> > redistribute their flavor as LGPL…
> >
> > My issue was more about the compatibility of the CC-BY with the LGPL
> > license. Actually if we think about it we distribute several kinds of
> > binaries:
>
> According to GNU, CC-BY is LGPL compatible:
>
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#ccby
> I would have guessed that it was not but the GPL contains some odd
> clauses just for providing additional compatibility.
ok that’s cool then.
So we just need to confirm that we want our wiki pages (XML files) under
CC-BY and modify the licenses accordingly.
Same question for VM files.
Personally I’m fine with CC-BY for both.
WDYT?
> > * JAR file: No problem there, all code is under LGPL
> > * XAR files: No problem there, all code is under CC-BY. Note that
> > this means script code is also under CC-BY which doesn’t really support
> > source code but I don’t think we care. Actually there could be some problem
> > since in our XAR files we include pom.xml which link to JAR dependencies
> > under LGPL. The script calls LGPL code. Is that a problem?
>
> Not a problem, LGPL means linking is ok.
>
> > * WAR file: We need to clarify what’s the license for our VM files.
> > Do we want someone to be able to create a custom skin and redistribute it
> > under a license other than LGPL? Should the VM files be under CC-BY too?
>
> If they cannot possibly be used outside of XWiki, do we really care
> what the license is ?
I agree we shouldn’t care and I’m in favor of CC-BY. Now do we need to
find all their authors to ask them if they’re ok to relicense them un CC-BY?
:)
I don't really agree with the "we don't care", pages contain code and
they are distributed on their own. It's not just some data you get in
a XWiki distribution but extensions you install on a platform so they
are software. It's like saying we don't care about some php software
license, it only works with the pho runtime anyway…