4 Oct
2017
4 Oct
'17
3:13 p.m.
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau
<guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
wrote:
I
for
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Thomas Mortagne
2017-10-03 17:34 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com>om>:
Some for me, if "the majority of notifcations in the wild" only refer
to social networks and communication tools then it's not a good input
for a wiki IMO.
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Thomas Mortagne
<
thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
Depends on what we want to focus on and also on what are user's
expectations.
If you look at the majority of notifcations in the wild, the user is the
focus.
People want to know who did what, on what page, when.
But Facebook, for example, is a social network. It focuses on people by
nature. On XWiki, it is not that evident. In the case of a knowledge base,
you focus more on the content (the knowledge) than on the people. On
xwiki.org, I guess you prefer seeing what's change instead of who made some
changes...
If we define XWiki as a collaboration tool, then you collaborate to create
something and so the focus is naturally more on that "something".
Just my 2 cents :) On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Guillaume
Delhumeau
<guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
(create,
So your proposal focuses a lot more on the users
instead of the apps
(like
> facebook for example). It's OK for me, but I think the type icon edit,
comment, etc...) is too small compared to the user face.
Actually when I see these screenshot, my first impression is that the
user
has been modified :) Would it be nice to have the
type icon bigger than
the
user face? To me, what happened is more important
than who made it, but
maybe it's only my feeling.
Pretty much the same comments on my side. I find weird to focus that
much on users, I would have preferred images corresponding on the
change made.
Nice work anyway, as usual :)
Guillaume
2017-10-03 9:50 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com
>>:
>
>>
>>
>> 2017-10-02 18:09 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
>>
>>>
>>> > On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:05, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> Another feedback/questions:
>> >>
>> >> * Is the avatar icon clickable and leading to the user profile?
>> >> * We need a way to link directly to the diff, at least for page
events
>> so that the user can see what was
modified (as we have currently in
the AS)
>>> >
>>> > * Maybe “2 hours ago” is not precise enough. In your example I see
>>> created and modified the Roadmap
page but they both say “2 hours
ago”.
>>
Shouldn’t I be able to see how far away both events were done?
>>
>> My understanding is that events are grouped by app+type but not by
entity
>>> anymore (for page events) and thus you can have 3 events displayed the
per
>> same page, f.ex: Creation, Modification,
Deletion.
>>
>
> And you could also have different users grouped in the same composite
> event. So when you display the details, it would be nice to show which
user
> made each event, and I see you have removed
this info.
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > -Vincent
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> -Vincent
>> >>
>> >>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:01, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>> valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Event Type: BlogPostPublishedEvent
>> >>>> from
>> >>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Notification
>> sImprovements9x#HEventTypes
>> >>>
>> >>> ok thanks, had missed this since I was reading from top to bottom
and
>>> stopped at the overview :)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> However I don’t think it scales since it means one unique icon
>>> combination of app type + event
type.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What would scale better is two icons: one for the app type and
one
>>> for the event type.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> For example imagine that the Blog app had the following
events:
>>> >>> * When a blog post is published
>>> >>> * When a blog post is created
>>> >>> * When a blog post is removed
>>> >>>
>>> >>> You wouldn’t be able to use the RSS icon to represent the 3
events.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> BTW the RSS icon isn’t necessarily representative of the Blog
app.
A
there’s
>> lot of apps can have a RSS feed.
>> >>>
>> >>> That’s the main remark I have: it’s going to be harder and harder
to
>>> find unique icons as we had more events to apps, especially if only
Notifications
>> 1 icon that is supposed to combine both
app type + event type.
>> >>>
>> >>> WDYT?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> -Vincent
>> >>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Caty
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Vincent Massol <
vincent(a)massol.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Hi Caty,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<
>>> valicac(a)gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Hi,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I've created some improvements suggestions for
our >>
UI, see
>> >>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>> >>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Let me know what you think.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Re the overview, I don’t see where you mention the app?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> For example, could you show how a new Blog post would be
displayed
>> and you
>> >>>>> differentiate that for example from a Page creation or
modification?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>> -Vincent
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>> Caty
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>
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Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
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Thomas Mortagne