Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UX] Notifications Improvements 9.8+

On 30 Oct 2017, at 15:15, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote: For me it was confusing seeing "Pages", since in XWiki everything is a page and I don't have any application called Pages. I saw the addition of "Pages" as redundant. Not really sure how to display 4 avatars + in a nice way, while still being the main focus.

>> Now I haven't created versions for all the combinations, but we should >> decide if: >> - we want user focused vs. event focused layout >> - expanded version should have users or events on the left; >> - the summary should contain avatars or not for the users (important when >> there is a single user that did the event); >> - if / when we combine the users (when we have more than 2/3 users; > always; >> >> I am lacking some information in order to get some statistical decisions. >> For example, in practice: >> - we have more individual events or more events done by multiple people? >> - how common is to group also events? the example with blog published > that >> also has the create. Do we really need to display them? Also when > creating >> an user profile we launch a multitude of edit events, should all those be >> displayed? >> >> Regarding the user vs. event focused layout: it's just in the layout and >> what we display on the first position, since I've kept the current >> page/event grouping that is currently implemented. The decision depends > on >> how everyone is using the wiki: are they more interested in activity > being >> done on the wiki or who actually did that activity? > > Both are needed and it depends on the usage I guess. My feeling is that > humans are good at relationships in a group and a picture speaks more than > a generic icon for an app. You know who you work with, you know people you > like, you know who you consider is a stranger, etc and you’ll want to check > the diff and dive further based on that. The fact that the avatar is shown > prominently will help that. > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> I like to see who did what, but if the Notifications implementation will >> always group users and we will get the Group icon, than this might not be >> very nice. >> >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> >> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>> >>>> On 27 Oct 2017, at 17:31, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) &lt;valicac(a)gmail.com >> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> So these are some more iterations for the notifications layout >>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>> NotificationsImprovements9xTypes >>>> >>>> I've played with User centered vs. Event centered and variants for >>>> displaying the avatars, user names and event names. >>>> >>>> Let me know what version you prefer. Also you can fork the prototypes > if >>>> you want to make some small changes. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Caty >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 11:24, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello >>>>>> >>>>>> 2017-10-24 11:12 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt;et>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Guillaume, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:58, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any news on this? I'd like to implement this quickly because 9.10 > is >>>>>>> coming >>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This the current status: >>>>>>> * Caty proposed some improved layout for displaying notifications >>>>>>> * I commented about the need to display event + type, and about the >>> need >>>>>>> to have a link to see the diff. I also mentioned that we need to > work >>> on >>>>>>> the mail template display >>>>>>> * Caty replied and updated her proposal to take into account those >>>>>>> comments. >>>>>>> * I kind of like Caty’s proposal focused on the user. We want to > favor >>>>>>> contributions and I think it helps. It also makes the UI more >>> appealing >>>>>>> visually. >>>>>>> * You mentioned that you’d prefer a proposal more focused on the > event >>>>>>> rather than the user >>>>>>> * Thomas agrees with you >>>>>>> * Edy mentioned some extra points >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have also mentioned that the diff we propose is too technical for >>> many >>>>>> users. >>>>> >>>>> Yes and we have 4 solutions: >>>>> >>>>> * Solution 1: make it simpler to understand for everyone >>>>> * Solution 2: have a wiki admin UI level option to select whether to >>>>> include diff or not in the default template + user-level profile UI >>> option >>>>> (ie. per user) >>>>> * Solution 3: have a singe button in the mail, that, when clicked, >>>>> displays the diff (which is hidden by default) >>>>> * Solution 4: implement 2 mail templates (one for simple users and one >>> for >>>>> advanced users) and let the users choose in their profile which one > they >>>>> want to receive + have a wiki admin UI level option to decide which is >>> the >>>>> default when not overridden by the user. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> So I guess we need to decide about whether we show the avatar as in >>>>> Caty’s >>>>>>> proposal or not, right? Is that what you’re asking about Guillaume? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On my side, I don’t see the issue in displaying the user avatar > large >>> vs >>>>>>> small. The events are still ordered by page events. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2017-10-23 13:19 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt;gt;: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Note that you have a mail template for the notifications too. It's >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/blob/ >>>>>>>>> 83b76ed4c26954aa2755bbdce23b32c41725ac06/xwiki-platform- >>>>>>>>> core/xwiki-platform-notifications/xwiki-platform- >>>>>>>>> notifications-ui/src/main/resources/XWiki/Notifications/ >>>>>>>>> MailTemplate.xml#L23 but it's not documented yet. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This mail template allows you to customize the header and the > footer >>>>> of >>>>>>>>> the email, but not the actual content. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To be precise, each *event type* can have its own template or >>> failback >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> the default one (https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/blob/ >>>>>>>>> acdf68f4c0d20a9b44ea48eec4df808e22c54548/xwiki-platform- >>>>>>>>> core/xwiki-platform-web/src/main/webapp/templates/ >>>>>>>>> notification/email/default.html.vm) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So it's a template *per event type* and it's not linked to any > user >>>>>>>>> choice. But we could add some options in the default template for >>>>>>> example. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2017-10-17 16:23 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt;et>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Guillaume, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Oct 2017, at 07:16, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some ideas. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have feedback about the fact the diff is way too technical for >>>>>>> users. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Example: "What does it means???" https://img15.hostingpics.net/ >>>>>>>>>>> pics/670307example1.png >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So we could hide this in a "technical details" link. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That’s one option but there’s another which is to provide the >>> ability >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> choose which mail template to use in the Admin and provide > several >>>>>>>>>> templates for different needs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For example for the xwiki.org watchlist we absolutely need to be >>>>> able >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> see the diffs without clicking a “technical details” link for > each >>>>>>>>>> notification. It could be ok if there’s a single “technical >>> details” >>>>>>> link >>>>>>>>>> for ALL notifications that shows all diffs at once. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The "details" link could be replaced by a "more" link, with a > very >>>>>>>>>>> simplified diff (the complete diff would go the the technical >>>>> details >>>>>>>>>> view). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In the body of the event, in addition with the title of the >>>>> document, >>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>> could add some extracts of the diff. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Example taken on gmail: >>>>>>>>>>> https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/763456example2.png >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope it helps, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-12 15:38 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt;et>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Looks nice. Does it work in all mail clients that support HTML? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like an option to show the details for all events as >>> otherwise >>>>>>> it's >>>>>>>>>>>> too painful to have to open all one by one (for the use case > when >>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>> to check everything). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Same as Guillaume: not all events are page-related events. So > we >>>>> need >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> handle those too. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Oct 2017, at 15:03, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, it looks very nice. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, you said the events are displayed like in the >>> notifications, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the notifications they are ordered by dates, not by pages. > Does >>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal imply to change the ordering? What about events that > do >>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> concern any page (like: "a new wiki has been created" or "a > new >>>>>>> XWiki >>>>>>>>>>>>> version is available")? We don't have such events for now but > we >>>>>>> plan >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> have some soon. We could display them last for example. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice CSS expand! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks you, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-12 14:47 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a proposal for the Notifications mail: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9xEmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've continued with the 'user' avatar focused proposal, since >>>>> I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently focused on the email template. If we drop the user >>>>> avatar >>>>>>>>>>>> (since >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we group multiple users) then we can have the event/app icon >>>>>>> instead >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avatar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I want to have feedback on is the email layout, >>>>> functionality >>>>>>>>>> (tree >>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation, details expanding) and styling. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with the Prototype >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jsfiddle.net/risherry/cj25759w/embedded/#Result >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we were to translate to the mail template, there are still >>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be tested (like translating the CSS selectors into inline, >>>>>>> decide >>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> email clients we support, etc.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-03 17:32 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-02 18:09 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol < >>> vincent(a)massol.net >>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol < >>> vincent(a)massol.net >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:05, Vincent Massol < >>>>> vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another feedback/questions: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Is the avatar icon clickable and leading to the user >>>>>>> profile? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * We need a way to link directly to the diff, at least >>> for >>>>>>> page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that the user can see what was modified (as we have >>>>>>> currently >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Maybe “2 hours ago” is not precise enough. In your >>>>> example I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created and modified the Roadmap page but they both say > “2 >>>>>>> hours >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago”. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn’t I be able to see how far away both events were >>>>> done? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that events are grouped by app+type > but >>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore (for page events) and thus you can have 3 events >>>>>>>>>> displayed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same page, f.ex: Creation, Modification, Deletion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you could also have different users grouped in the > same >>>>>>>>>> composite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> event. So when you display the details, it would be nice > to >>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made each event, and I see you have removed this info. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The focus of this proposal is on user, compared to the old >>> one, >>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the app/doc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Close to what we have on Facebool. So it didn't made sense >>> that >>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a page has been edited by vmassol, and that the details >>>>> showcase >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple user actually did the edit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Facebook, you have it actually: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOioRAT.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On XWiki, we have the following (already implemented): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOiqgYf.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:01, Vincent Massol < >>>>> vincent(a)massol.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Event Type: BlogPostPublishedEvent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x#HEventTypes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok thanks, had missed this since I was reading from > top >>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopped at the overview :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I don’t think it scales since it means one >>> unique >>>>>>> icon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of app type + event type. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would scale better is two icons: one for the app >>> type >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the event type. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example imagine that the Blog app had the > following >>>>>>>>>> events: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is published >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is created >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is removed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn’t be able to use the RSS icon to represent >>> the >>>>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW the RSS icon isn’t necessarily representative of > the >>>>>>> Blog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of apps can have a RSS feed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s the main remark I have: it’s going to be harder >>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> harder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find unique icons as we had more events to apps, > especially >>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there’s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 icon that is supposed to combine both app type + event >>>>> type. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Vincent Massol < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Caty, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've created some improvements suggestions for our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notifications >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UI, see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re the overview, I don’t see where you mention the >>> app? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, could you show how a new Blog post > would >>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differentiate that for example from a Page creation > or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modification? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project