5 Mar
2009
5 Mar
'09
8:01 p.m.
Anca Paula Luca wrote:
Anca Paula Luca wrote:
There always will be developers for that (even if not necessarily
through the wiki editor but rather through XEclipse or bespin's editor).
I have doubts about scripting velocity or groovy in a dialog box in the
wysiwyg :)
My 2 cents,
Jerome.
Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
with the old syntax I meant
> and, if we use meaningful spaces, we only get
> rid of the problem because users wouldn't be able to nicely format the
> tables/lists/etc at all. So meaningful spaces means that you're taking away the
> possibility of nicely formated wiki syntax even to users that use _only_ wiki
> syntax and therefore could take advantage of it.
>
> 2/ as it was mentioned in a discussion we once had with Vincent, I'm wondering
> how many wiki syntax users will there be out there once we get the new wysiwyg
> strong enough. Thomas Mortagne wrote:
1/ this problem was there
already Hi devs,
We have to make a decision about that.
So here are the proposals:
1) remove the block leading and trainling spaces
* The main goal is to make source formatting for tables for example
more readable
2) make the spaces inside paragraph non meaningfull
* Meaning an HTML like behavior where multiple spaces give one space
3) in case of 1) or 2) use ~<space> as non breaking space
WDYT ?
-0, the users will blame the WYSIWYG for messing up their nicely
formatted table/lists/etc. when switching between the editors. This will
make the WYSIWYG unusable for a wiki syntax user. Otherwise put,
is this use-case frequent enough?
Happy coding,
Anca
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs +0,5 for 1) it's not critical for me but
i'm not against it and we
already decided to remove space before list item, headers etc.
-0 for 2) I don't see the need for that and it's a lot easier for the
parser to make spaces meaningfull (what to do when you have "test **
bold**" and things like that)
+1 for 3)
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 15:44, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is our last chance to change this behavior. We've found several
> places where having meaningful spaces are counter-productive:
>
> * in table cells since we can't align table anymore. For example:
>
> |= column1 |= column2
> | this is some para | second column
> | hello | world
>
> (not sure this will be rendered nicely in mail but you see what I mean)
>
> * in scripts since having meaningful spaces prevents us from aligning
> velocity or groovy scripts. For ex we can't write:
>
> #if (....)
> #if (...)
> do something
> # end
> #end
>
> To see a better example have a look at http://tinyurl.com/ahz669
>
> What I think users real want are meaningful new lines but I see cons
> overweighting pros for having meaningful white spaces. Thus I'm think
> we should strip whitespaces at beginning and end of lines including
> for line breaks.
> I'm slightly less sure for multiple spaces between words but even
> there I think we could strip them have users use {{{ }}} to put a non
> breaking space for ex (or introduce a {{space/}} macro or another
> special syntax although I'd rather we don't introduce a new syntax).
>
> WDYT?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
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