24 Apr
2017
24 Apr
'17
2:41 p.m.
Generally, I like the proposal. A sticky save button is clearly the
solution.
However, the mobile view is a mess:
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/mobile.…
Side note: I think it`s a good time to address the "Save & Continue" +
"Save & View" duality that I found deeply confusing when I first started
with XWiki. If we take it down to only 2 buttons (Save + Cancel), it will
improve the mobile view as well.
My last note about the proposal is related to the sticky state visible in
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/bottomB…
... I`m not sure on the technical aspects, but I would still prefer it to
"stick" only to the content area and not overflow to the entire width of
the screen and go into panels or whatever the skin might have around the
content area (in edit mode).
Thanks,
Eduard
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau
<
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Beginner users sometimes don't know what that is for. Somebody asked me to
remove it all together :) you think it's too small :P
Usually save is a the bottom. Still the same view will be also in Full
Screen and the top area is already taken by the CkEditor controls, see
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave/fullScreen.png
Thanks,
Caty
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Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
+1 for the solution 3:
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave/smallViewPort.png
Hi Guillaume,
They are not separate proposals, just one, but it looks a bit different
when it's fixed at bottom, versus in its position. Just wanted to make that
clear.
2017-04-11 21:58 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
> Hi,
>
> > On 11 Apr 2017, at 21:25, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Caty,
> > Very happy to see progress in this area, this is a real pain to
scroll
> to the bottom of the document to save it,
and there is a long time it
is
> affecting us.
> > However, I am not really happy with your current proposal. I found
the
text area
for the version summary way too small for the purpose.
It should
Currently it is on a separate line. I tried to integrate everything in a
single line, that will be always visible, although I agree we have many
functionalities (autosave, summary, minor, preview, etc.) and they look a
bit crowded.
IMO stay on a separate line in order to be large
enough. Since this not
always useful, it might, however, be collapsed somehow in certain
circumstances.
> > I also wonder if just having some
buttons on the top in addition to
the
> bottom, wouldn’t be simpler and as
efficient, even if the top feature
is
limited
(just save / save&view).
It might also work with your fixed bottom
the
UI, that might also be more limited than what you
can do by scrolling.
find
I hope these are useful comments. I am also
curious to see other
opinions on this important feature.
For me, the issue with the always-on-bar is that it takes up space and
thus reduces the available vertical space for editing content. Thus I it interesting to have it on only one line and
also to only have it at
the
> bottom and not repeat it at the top. I’d really not like to see it at > top.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > --
> > Denis Gervalle
> > SOFTEC sa - CEO
> > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 17:59, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > Some users have complained that when editing they don't know that
they
need
> to scroll in order to see the Save buttons.
>
> This is a proposal that tackles:
> - Displaying the save buttons in a bottom area, when they are out of
the
viewport,
see
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave/bottomBar.png
> - Reorganizing the bottom zone in order to compact all the save into a
single bar
- When the user scrolls, the buttons go into their position, see
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave/after.png
For the whole proposal and more screenshots, see
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave
WDYT?
Thanks,
Caty