16 Apr
2007
16 Apr
'07
8:56 a.m.
Hi Stephane,
On Apr 16, 2007, at 12:08 AM, Stéphane Laurière wrote:
Hi Vincent and all,
I actually committed this code (a bit abruptly maybe) so that we can
discuss in greater detail what this would mean to use WikiModel in
XWiki. This is also the follow up of a recent exchange between Silvan,
Mikhail and I, while Silvan was asking about more info about WikiModel
on the one hand and about XWiki/WikiModel integration on the other
hand.
Who's Silvan? :)
This code is just meant to be experimented with for
now... It's a few
classes that make it possible to use WikiModel from XWiki. I have
put it
at the developers' disposal so that others may build upon this code if
they wish. I will provide more information about this code as soon as
possible so that we can continue the discussion.
org.semanticdesktop.wiki.core implements the Adapter pattern
applied to
a wiki page: it lets you see a wiki page either as a SemanticWikiPage,
i.e a set of RDF statements, or as an HtmlPage or as a
SourceWikiPage. I
agree a jar would be better indeed.
Actually I think it's a bit confusing to integrate both WikiModel AND
SemanticDesktop at the same time and I don't understand why we have
to do that together? Cannot we integrate WikiModel first and then
later on SemanticDesktop, provided we are interested in that (I have
only a very faint idea of what it means)?
What is SemanticDesktop? Where is it hosted? Who is behind it? What's
its community?
Also you're talking about viewing the same page using different
models: semantic, html, source. I'd like an architecture overview of
this. Why is this needed? For example, I would have thought the HTML
view would have been the rendering of a Source page. Also, what about
XWiki XML format, PDF, etc?
As for the license: although not yet present yet in
the files, all
org.semanticdesktop.wiki* classes are EPLv1.0, all
com.xpn.xwiki.wikimodel classes follow th XWiki license, i.e LGPL.
Is EPL compatible with LGPL? (I have never used EPL).
Thanks!
-Vincent
Let me remind you all of the existence of a specific
mailing-list for
WikiModel: https://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/wws/lists
CC: Mikhail, author of WikiModel
Cheers
Stéphane
Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Stephane,
This sounds cool. Could you please send a short email explaining what
this is for, what you're planning to do with this, who's going to
work on this, architecture decisions taken, etc?
Also I've see you've imported sources from org.semanticdesktop.*. I
have some questions regarding this:
1) Why do we need this library? 2) Why don't we depend on a JAR
version of it rather than on source? 3) What is the license of it? 4)
It looks like JDK 1.5 code... but I guess we're going to standardize
on JDK 1.5 now...
A general comment: while this sounds cool, I think you're dumping a
LOT of files and this makes it almost impossible for anyone else
to participate in this refactoring which isn't good for you as it may
mean you'll have to do the whole coding yourself... ;-) I would have
rather had a discussion first explaining what you wanted to do, what
architecture, how does it fit with the 2.0 architecture, etc. Of
course we can and should do that now but still it's hard to review
that huge commit... at least for anyone not having 3-4 full days
ahead of him... :)
All that said, I'm happy we're getting traction on this :)
Thanks -Vincent
On Apr 15, 2007, at 10:10 PM, St??phane Lauri??re wrote:
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Added: xwiki-sandbox/com.xpn.xwiki.wikimodel/ Log: XWIKI-1088: Put
wikimodel integration prototype available in the xwiki-sandbox
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