2 Nov
2015
2 Nov
'15
11:50 a.m.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi.
I've attached a mock-up of your idea there:
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H5.W…
Some thoughts:
* the notification menu needs to be always displayed to access the
watchlist actions, even if no real notification have been sent.
So we would need a kind of "new" icon close
to the bell (or the count of
unread notifications) when there is new notifications (like in facebook:
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/117fb905-4cd4-4a63-a53d-fbfa5d975ed1…
)
Yes, we'll need something like this.
* the actions are relevant to the current page, but are displayed in a more
global menu. But we could also argue that they concern the notification
area so it's ok and quite intuitive.
* it still need an extra-click to see the state of the page (but as before
in the first Flamingo's version and Colibri) but it does not cost a lot
(nothing compared to a modal box to open).
If everyone agrees, I can implement this way.
Thanks,
2015-11-02 9:50 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/e0f42388-9d3d-4253-83db-1986a2d8a846…
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/…
this
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/…
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/…
> > >
> > > What I propose, following the idea of Vincent, is the following:
> > >
>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H4.W…
a
> > > "bell" icon, such as:
> > >
>
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/e0f42388-9d3d-4253-83db-1986a2d8a846…
and
> > its
> > > > children) and, below those options, we would add (in the coming
> future)
> > > > actual notifications about modified documents that the user is
> > watching.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes, but how do you show, using only one icon, that:
> > >
> > > * the current document is in your watch list (state for the current
> > > document)
> > > * there are documents in your watch list that have been modified
> > > (notifications)
> > >
> > > I agree that the top bar is the right place to signal
notifications,
> > but
> > > > I'm not sure it's the best place to show some state related
to the
> > > current
> > > > document.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Marius
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Something like
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
>
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thefacebookinsider.com/wp-co…
wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I've just added a new iteration:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H1.b…
bar
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17hbqlh3z3feijpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
the
user
the
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Edy's proposal sounds ok to me.
Thanks,
Marius
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
in
I don`t like having multiple icons for relatively
the same purpose nor
abusing the extra space we have in the top menu.
What about joining the 2 icons (eye and bell) and using only the bell
item
> for generic "notifications"?
> Reiterating: inside the dropdown of the bell icon (the dropdown shown > ), just above the actual notifications
stream, we would also have the 2
> watchlist subscription options (i.e. the content of the dropdown shown
in
> )
> which would also show their states.
>
> This way we would also remove the "watch" actions from the more actions
> section and we would group notifications and page-watch-subscriptions
in
> the same spot. IMO, it is not critical to
always display the
information
> that you are watching the current page and,
just like we did in all the
> other previous skins, it is enough if you can obtain that information
in
one click
(i.e. clicking on the bell icon and seeing the state of the
watch
> buttons). In our previous skins (colibri, Flamingo v1, etc.) we had > information upon hovering the page, space or
wiki, in the dropdown.
>
> And yes, I guess that at first, it will look a bit similar to proposal
3
> (
> ), but with a bell icon and not a dedicated
eye (watchlist) icon
instead
> :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eduard
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
<
> > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Eduard, what you propose is basically the proposal 3:
> > >
> > >
> >
> An icon on the top bar when the page is watched (like the badge
proposed
> > previously), but the actions are still in the more actions menu.
> >
> > Notifications can still be display on the top bar, under a menu with > >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > 2015-10-29 14:37 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
> > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Eduard Moraru <
enygma2002(a)gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sounds nice. A notifications top menu button that, when expanded,
would
> > > show the 2 options (to watch the current page or the current page 
> >
> but with the two options included.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Eduard
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie"
Delhumeau <
> > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I like it. What about the others?
> > > >
> > > > 2015-10-29 10:52 GMT+01:00 vincent(a)massol.net <
vincent(a)massol.net
>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Guillaume,
> > > > >
> > > > > On 28 Oct 2015 at 16:18:49, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (
> > > > > gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > 2015-10-28 15:32 GMT+01:00 vincent(a)massol.net :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Guillaume,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 28 Oct 2015 at 14:57:27, Guillaume Louis-Marie
Delhumeau (
> > > > > > > >
gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I still don’t like that it takes more vertical space
and
that
> > it
> > > > > > doesn’t
> > > > > > > > solve the general problem of notifications.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is a little variant with the "badge"
displayed in the
> same
> > > line
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > > the last modification date. It does not take more
vertical
> space.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why not implement the notification area in the
top menu as
> > > > > discussed
> > > > > > > in a few places?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't understand how the state of the current page
(is it
> watched
> > > by
> > > > > the
> > > > > > current user or not?) is related to
"notification". To me,
> > > > notifications
> > > > > > are relevant to inform the user that a new message has
been
> > received
> > > or
> > > > > > that a watched page has been modified, but not to inform
about
> the
> > > > state
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the current page. In other words, notifications are about
> "events",
> > > and
> > > > > not
> > > > > > about "state”.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes you’re right, I’ve not used the right terminology. I was
> > referring
> > > to
> > > > > a zone in the top menu bar on the right (but left of the
existing
> > > > search
> > > > > > icon) where apps could contribute new icons, similar to
what
> exists
> > > on
> > > > > OSX.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For example check the top right of
> > > > > > 
> > (they
> > > > > call
> > > > > > it menu bar icons).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like this better because:
> > > > > > 1) It’s an UIX, it’s apps that can contribute to it
> > > > > > 2) We have removed menu entries in the top bar and thus we
have
> > lots
> > > of
> > > > > > available horizontal space
> > > > > > 3) We define a standard for all apps
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The idea would for apps to contribute notifications and
states
>
there.
> > > > >
> > > > > WDYT?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > -Vincent
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > -Vincent
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2015-10-13 19:55 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea
<
> > > > > > > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Re "watch parent and siblings?" it
should be "Watch
this
> > page
> > > > and
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > > > > > children" IMO. Terminal pages
should have only "Watch
> this
> > > > page".
> > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > want to watch the siblings also you can
navigate to > > > parent
> > > > > page
> > > > > > > > (it's
> > > > > > > > > > not that hard).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I don't think "Watch this
wiki" should be displayed
on
>
every
> > > > page.
> > > > > We
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > have it either on the Wiki Index (as an
additional
entry
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > Actions
> > > > > > > > > > column) or on the Drawer where we list
the wikis.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So basically for a nested
(non-terminal) page the > can
> > > > > perform
> > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > > actions: "Watch this page"
and "Watch this page and
its
> > > > > children".
> > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > state can be one of "No
watch", "Explicit watch",
> "Implicit
> > > > > watch"
> > > > > > > > (either
> > > > > > > > > > the wiki or one of its ancestor are
being watched
"with
> > > > > children").
> > > > > > > > Maybe
> > > > > > > > > > we don't care about the difference
between explicit
and
> >
> implicit
> > > > > > > watch, in
> > > > > > > > > which case there will be only two states.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Guillaume
"Louis-Marie"
> > > > > Delhumeau
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The other thread about the content
menus
> re-organization
> > > has
> > > > > > > > deviated to
> > > > > > > > > > > talk about the watchlist, so I
prefer to continue > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > new thread.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have made some mock-ups that you
can see there:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> >
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
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