On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Generally, I like the proposal. A sticky save button
is clearly the
solution.
However, the mobile view is a mess:
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave/mobile.png
Side note: I think it`s a good time to address the "Save & Continue" +
"Save & View" duality that I found deeply confusing when I first started
with XWiki. If we take it down to only 2 buttons (Save + Cancel), it will
improve the mobile view as well.
My last note about the proposal is related to the sticky state visible in
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave/bottomBar.png
... I`m not sure on the technical aspects, but I would still prefer it to
"stick" only to the content area and not overflow to the entire width of
the screen and go into panels or whatever the skin might have around the
content area (in edit mode).
Thanks,
Eduard
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Guillaume
Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
+1 for the solution 3:
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave/smallViewPort.png
Hi Guillaume,
They are not separate proposals, just one, but it looks a bit different
when it's fixed at bottom, versus in its position. Just wanted to make
that
clear.
2017-04-11 21:58 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
> Hi,
>
> > On 11 Apr 2017, at 21:25, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Caty,
> > Very happy to see progress in this area, this is a real pain to
scroll
> to the bottom of the document to save it,
and there is a long time it
is
> affecting us.
> > However, I am not really happy with your current proposal. I found
the
text area
for the version summary way too small for the purpose.
Beginner users sometimes don't know what that is for. Somebody asked me
to
remove it all together :) you think it's too
small :P
> It should
> > IMO stay on a separate line in order to be large enough. Since this
not
always useful, it might, however, be collapsed somehow
in certain
circumstances.
Currently it is on a separate line. I tried to integrate everything in a
single line, that will be always visible, although I agree we have many
functionalities (autosave, summary, minor, preview, etc.) and they look a
bit crowded.
> > I also wonder if just having some
buttons on the top in addition to
the
> bottom, wouldn’t be simpler and as
efficient, even if the top feature
is
limited
(just save / save&view).
Usually save is a the bottom. Still the same view will be also in Full
Screen and the top area is already taken by the CkEditor controls, see
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave/fullScreen.png
Thanks,
Caty
> It might also work with your fixed bottom
> > UI, that might also be more limited than what you can do by
scrolling.
> > > I hope these are useful comments.
I am also curious to see other
> > opinions on this important feature.
> >
> > For me, the issue with the always-on-bar is that it takes up space
and
> > thus reduces the available vertical
space for editing content. Thus I
> find
> > it interesting to have it on only one line and also to only have it
at
the
> bottom and not repeat it at the top. I’d really not like to see it at
the
> top.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > --
> > Denis Gervalle
> > SOFTEC sa - CEO
> > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 17:59, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > Some users have complained that when editing they don't know that
they
> > need
> > > to scroll in order to see the Save buttons.
> > >
> > > This is a proposal that tackles:
> > > - Displaying the save buttons in a bottom area, when they are out
of
the
> viewport, see
>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave/bottomBar.png
> - Reorganizing the bottom zone in order to compact all the save
functions
> into a single bar
> - When the user scrolls, the buttons go into their position, see
>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave/after.png
>
> For the whole proposal and more screenshots, see
>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave
>
> WDYT?
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the
XWiki.org project