5 Jul
2010
5 Jul
'10
12:46 p.m.
On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
and problems with forms that have been submitted.
-Vincent
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:59, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
No it wasn't easier before but we have the right to improve stuff.... :)
Using the back button is really bad. You can have done actions in pages (script executed)
and you would execute it again + you'll need to go back several levels. Hi Caty,
On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
First of all:
- top level menu:
- will contain page names
- shows wiki/space/page hierarchy
- breadcrumb:
- will contain page titles
- shows parent/child hierarchy
Top level menu will be easier to understand for the user, because the
pattern wiki/space/page is now more widely used inside XWiki: search
results, WYSIWYG pages description ("Located in xwiki » XWiki » Admin"), new
Rights UI navigation, etc.
We use Parent/child also for tree. It will be more clear if we combine the
parent selector with the breadcrumb (like it was proposed once for the Edit
improvements).
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ImprovedEdit/c…
Hi,
After gathering some Action Menus feedback, we decided to go for another
iteration for them.
Please give your feedback on this proposal and *cast your vote* for this
items (described at
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal…
):
1. New "Add" menu
+1
2. Wiki/Space/Page separation
+1
There are now 2 hierarchies:
- the top level menu
- the breadcrumb
Is that a problem for users to understand what each means?
In addition right now it's hard to navigate back to where you were.
Example: you navigate to a page, you realize you want to changer your user
profile from simple user to advanced user, you click on your user make the
change and you don't have an easy way to go back to where you were.
Was easier before? You can use the "Back" from browser; or hit the logo and
go Home and see Recent Changes; or use My recent modifications panel; etc.
My recent views panels is a solution of course but it's not integrated so I think we
need something better.
Again this is outside the scope of this topic but close since there's some need for
rationalization between these 3 ways of nav:
- top level menu
- breadcrumb
- navigation history
I'm just discussing this since I'd like us to think about how to improve
navigation in the future.
>> This is not related to this proposal per see but it may affect it in some
>> ways. I'd suggest we tackle it later on but I just wanted to point it out to
>> not forget it and to have it in mind.
>>
>>> 3. New "Delete" Space entry and relocation of some Page actions
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Is there a rule for deciding what page level features are moved to the top
>> level menu vs the features that stay in the edit menu bar?
>>
>
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ActionMenuProp…
>
> The rule is:
> - *page *related actions (copy, rename, delete) in the top level menu
> - *content *related actions closer to the content
>
> "Access Rights" has the similarity of Wiki/Space "Administration"
and also
> is a page action.
>
>
>>> 4. Better Wiki/Space naming representation (WIKI: Wikiname)
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> 5. Uppercase menu usage just for top entries/labels
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> 6. "TYPE: Name" pattern
>>
>> +1
>>
>> I propose to have those in 2.5M1 if someone come forward to implement it.
>> We can rediscuss this when we start the discussion re the 2.5 roadmap when
>> we release the first RC of 2.4.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>> Screenshots and proposal:
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2
>>> Partial prototype:
>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Skins/SkinMenu
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caty
>>>
>>> P.S. Thanks to Gregory for all opinions / ideas
