25 Mar
2009
25 Mar
'09
2:46 p.m.
Vincent,
Here is my honest thoughts:
- Your idea is great if you do not generate any GUID and you use the
normal information any HTTP request made to your site, for producing
statistics. It is the fair spying we all practice, I cannot disagree.
- Your GUID idea is great if you apply it under the clear acceptance
of the user, so that you add in the admin preference an option to
participate in your statistics. And you may imagine transmitting event
more detail informations about a wiki, like the number of documents,
and some global stats on the visits. You of course has to publish a
clear privacy policy regarding the data collected. For having that
option checked, I suggest you put it checked on an first page
displayed the first time the wiki loads for acceptance.
I would really dislike to be spy on by a GUID without clearly knowing
so. It is spyware methods, no more.
Hope you understand my point, such method could make people angry.
With kind regards,
Denis
On 24 mars 09, at 19:09, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi devs,
I think it would be interesting for us to know how many people install
and use our software. Of course we'd need to do this in a non
intrusive manner that adds value for the user.
Here's an idea Ludovic and I have discussed:
* In the administration page add a blog panel by default (replacing
the create page panel for ex which IMO isn't needed there) showing the
last 5 RSS feeds from xwiki.org
-> This is useful for the admin users since they need to know the
latest versions and news about the software they use
-> They can remove the panel easily if they don't want to see news
-> We can generate a unique id based on the user's system
(http://johannburkard.de/blog/programming/java/Java-UUID-generators-compared…
) so that we can identify active installs
We could then define what we call an active install (say a ping at
least once every month for ex) and we can find:
- how many new installs per day/month/year
- how many users stop using xwiki after some time and what the average
time it's used actively
Obviously we won't get perfect data (people will remove the panel,
others won't be connected to the internet, etc) that but it seems to
me it would a good guess.
Once we get this data we could display it on xwiki.org (we could even
display it in the stats space with the other data).
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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