27 Nov
2012
27 Nov
'12
10:57 a.m.
On Nov 27, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea <mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
I meant "he" of course :)
-Vincent
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
I don't agree. I've been using it 100% of the time and others too. Anyone not
using it is not following the best practice and that's pretty bad.
Hi Sergiu,
Could you please move your document to the Draft section since it's not normal to see
it in the best practices since it's not been agreed about yet?
See below
On Nov 26, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
On 11/26/2012 08:26 AM, Eduard Moraru wrote:
> Hi Sergiu,
>
> Great work on the translations best practices, as we really needed such a
> document.
>
> Regarding the naming convention, I`m not very happy with the fact that,
> AFAIK, we have already [1] voted on this topic in the past.
> Now I know that not everybody is doing it, but I, for one, have already
> added a good number of translations based on this voted convention.
Ah, thanks for the link, I tried to find it but my search skills are
getting rusty...
I missed the previous vote, I would have said -1 to the
allCamelCasePropertyNamesInOnePart.
Also we've been using this for a long time
now so please don't change it just now (that would require another vote thread) :)
It was voted but we didn't really use it.. I agree with Sergiu that
more than 2 namespaces (project and module) are needed. My vote is
still +1 for Sergiu's proposal (and I was aware of the previous vote
when I first reply).
There's no vote so you cannot be +1. If sergiu wants to change the current way we
name transation key she should send a vote. I've moved his proposal page to
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/L10N+Conventions so that it's not confused
as something established.
Thanks
-Vincent
Thanks,
Marius
>
> BTW it's been documented too at
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices#HTransla…
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> PS: I've not read your document yet (need to finish the release first :))
>
>> IMO, using dots to create multiple parts is better because:
>> - it's easier to read
>> - it provides fine-grained "namespacing", and proper namespacing is
>> always a good thing
>> - I have some ideas for improving the l10n process that would need this
>> namespacing, but that's for later
>>
>> For example, what does trashAttachmentsActionsCannotRestoreTooltip refer
>> to? Splitting it into trash.attachments.actions.cannotRestore.tooltip
>> makes it easier to understand from the first read. Same about
>> liveTableEditorClassFieldColumnGroupLabel.
>>
>> Don't worry about existing keys, as I said, there are few applications
>> that use the same set of rules, and whatever standard we pick, we'll
>> still have to "fix" a very large portion of keys.
>>
>>> -0.1 for the naming convention (Key format section), until we clear things
>>> out.
>>> +1 for the rest of the document.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eduard
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> [1] http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/6qn6peyehxr73le7
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>
>>>> I've written some conventions for translation messages at
>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/L10N+Conventions
>>>>
>>>> Please provide feedback, since we terribly lack some proper rules here,
>>>> and there aren't two applications that use the same conventions. Now
>>>> that we have support for modular translation documents, it's a good
time
>>>> to clean up translations and move things out of ApplicationProperties
>>>> into each application.