Re: [xwiki-devs] [PROPOSAL] What name for the minimum XWiki flavor

Hi, As I`ve mentioned in the other mail, I`d prefer "Base" or "Minimal" (as Vincent mentioned as well), mainly because I would not want users to be encouraged to use it directly, but instead, to use a flavor that builds on top of the Base and brings value (like the "Standard" flavor does). Now, I`m getting a bit confused here as to the nature of this base flavor. Is it a flavor or is it a distribution? Do we also have an XWiki "Base" distribution (war) that is slimmed down to support at least the XWiki Base *flavor*, and anything else will be installed with EM, according to what any additional "extended" flavor instructs (i.e. through its dependencies)?

Thanks, Eduard On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > If we want to use this flavor as a dependency for the other Flavors that > will be built on top, than I would like it to be called just "XWiki", so > your 1). > All the other flavors built on top would have composed names like "XWiki > KB", "XWiki Groupware", etc. > > Otherwise my vote goes to 3) Base or Basic. > > I think we should first define what this contains. For me it should not > just be EM, but all the default XWiki capabilities to create content: from > administration, to users, to templates, to editors, to viewers, to > livetable, to navigation, etc. :) > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Thomas Mortagne &lt;thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com > > > wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; > wrote: > > > > > >> On 3 Apr 2017, at 17:22, Thomas Mortagne &lt;thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com&gt; > > wrote: > > >> > > >> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; > > wrote: > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>>> On 3 Apr 2017, at 16:18, Thomas Mortagne &lt;thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com > > > > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Hi devs, > > >>>> > > >>>> Since 8.0 we have in xwiki-platform a flavor simply called "XWiki > > >>>> Flavor" which contains more or less the strict minimum to have > > >>>> something you can call an XWiki instance (Administration, Extension > > >>>> Manager, a home page, etc.). > > >>>> > > >>>> Since we want to promote the new Knowledge Base flavor have a > > >>>> concurrent called "XWiki" is not really making it a favor so we > should > > >>>> probably find another name for it. > > >>>> > > >>>> Here are some ideas: > > >>>> > > >>>> 1) "XWiki" Flavor, it's Ok after all > > >>>> 2) "Default" Flavor > > >>>> 3) "Base” Flavor > > >>> > > >>>> 4) "Lite" Flavor > > >>>> 5) "Mini" Flavor > > >>>> 6) "Minimum" Flavor > > >>>> 7) "Pico" Flavor > > >>>> 8) <another word that means small> Flavor > > >>> > > >>> This raises a question: Why do we have such a flavor? I don’t think > we > > need one if we have the KB flavor. > > >>> > > >> > > >>> The only flavor that would make sense to me is a “Base” flavor that > is > > **empty** (ie no wiki pages) and that serves as a common base minimum for > > other flavors. It would contain the bare minimum to have an XWiki > runtime. > > >> > > >> Note sure what is your point exactly. You want to discuss if it's > > >> allowed to install it as flavor or if it's only a dependency of > > >> another flavor ? > > > > > > My point is that we should only offer 2 things: > > > 1) the KB flavor > > > 2) or let the user not choose any flavor and have an empty wiki (no > wiki > > pages and minimal set of core extensions) > > > > So you want to remove this flavor. You don't need to install any > > flavor to have an empty wiki. > > > > > > > > What is the “XWiki Flavor” right now? You mentioned that it contained > > wiki pages (such as home page): > > > > > > "contains more or less the strict minimum to have > > > something you can call an XWiki instance (Administration, Extension > > > Manager, a home page, etc.).” > > > > > > This doesn’t look like the minimum to me. > > > > > > So the first thing to agree is about the scope of this “base” flavor. > > Then we can name it. > > > > When it was introduced it was defined as the flavor containing what we > > think is common to any kind of flavor, the core UI extensions > > basically like you have the core jar extensions on the WAR side. > > > > > > > > If it’s a minimal empty flavor then the best name for me are: > > > - “Minimal" > > > - "Base" > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Vincent > > > > > >> Thanks > > >>> -Vincent > > >>> > > >>>> I don't think keeping "XWiki" is such a great idea. Default is even > > worst. > > >>>> > > >>>> I like "Lite" but might sound too much like "the very limited free > > >>>> version, you are going to have advertisement in a month" theses > days. > > >>>> > > >>>> If I had to vote for only one it would be "Mini" but I'm fine with > any > > >>>> of the following proposals. > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Thomas Mortagne > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Thomas Mortagne > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Mortagne > > >