Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UX] Application Within Minutes

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:02, Thibaut Camberlin < thibaut.camberlin(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: 1/4 = 25% 4/4 = 100% this depends on our approach, but the percentages are not related to the number of steps you have and everybody knows that 100% means you're done. We already have the steps completion presented by "checking" the step number http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ApplicationWit… Although you have steps and the user can follow the steps order I tried not to limit the user by this wizard. I don't like wizards very much and that's why I didn't add the Prev, Next. The user can follow the wizard or he can do the task in any order he likes. And this is good for more complex applications: you create a class, create the sheet ... you can always go back and create another class without losing your progress. IMO ColorTheme was great as an example. When I did the proposal I had in mind something that can be used by beginner users and advanced. I don't think is wise to have 2 separate ways of doing something (one way for the beginner and one way for the advanced people). That's why I choose to display how an already customizable/medium application should be displayed. I don't think the area that lists all the application should be in administration. It could be related somehow to the Document Index maybe, because all users could benefit from using the applications. When you want to create an application you should go to the "Add" menu. An application being a space IMO makes sense the application list should be somewhere in the Document Index. - The first thing that we have to target is the simple view So from what I see nothing changed from your last vision. You still want everything like you specified in the wireframes. So this means keeping http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ApplicationWithinM… http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ApplicationWithinM… and redo the structure part. In my vision the structure part was the best part, but yes it was not actually intended only for beginner users, but for a mix. Using it also by advanced devs and not having to have a separated environment was the purpose. I liked the fact that you could see all pages related to the structure of the application and IMO this is an improvement from what we currently have. I don't know why a tree would be more suitable, neither of the tree's look and we also don't need the complexity (we have only 2 levels to display). If we remove the header is just a simple XWiki page. But the header gave unity and enforced the stepped creation process. If you make it just a simple page than how would you know it is an application? Thanks for the feedback, Caty