7 Jan
2013
7 Jan
'13
2:20 p.m.
Hi Vincent,
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Paul Libbrecht <paul(a)hoplahup.net> wrote:
Could you please enlighten me about what you mean? Unless you know really
good robots, I'm not sure how you intend to automatically perform a process
that requires assessing humans while they're using an application?
An option could be to log actions on myxwiki.org to try and get actual user
activity data after each upgrade. Is that what you had in mind?
Vincent,
we are more and more on the side of "usage analytics".
While I do not know the statistics module, I think a homogenization and
up-scaling
of the activity-stream together with the statistics module would
be really useful and would support the installers or admin into raising
usability.
For the AS it's a given since it's unmaintainable as it is (written in
wiki pages) and will be rewritten in Java, taking into account some not
currently implemented use cases.
For the stats, yes it would be a good idea too. First we have to assess
performances of the stats since a big goal is to make XWiki faster and I've
heard plenty of times that stats are disabled because of performance issues
so we need to measure that first.
Maybe also spreading the practice of usability
testing would be really
useful.
Sure, if you have some process (especially automated) to do that, it would
be great.
From a general POV we're already doing some kind of
usability testing by
having xwiki open source and releasing often and having users discuss
issues on our mailing lists/jira.
It's a start, but it's very far from real usability testing.
Thanks,
Guillaume
But if you have specific ideas, please shoot, so that
we can discuss them
:)
Thanks
-Vincent
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I know how to do so for search (and had advised
that to Savitha at the
time, I could find examples).
I do not know well how to do so for other tasks
but maybe this can be
found out.
Paul
Le 6 janv. 2013 à 00:34, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit :
> On 01/03/2013 06:53 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> We're getting close to the end of the 4.x cycle (only one more
release, 4.5, which should be out at the end of January) and thus we need
to start thinking about 5.x
>> (see
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/VersioningAndReleasePractices)
>>
>> As a reminder here are our past themes:
>> * 3.x: Theme 1: "Building Apps and Distributing them" (This means for
example that the Extension Manager in progress is a key element of XE 3.x.
It also means making it easier to create applications in XE.), Theme 2:
"Polishing"
>> * 4.x: Theme 1 (top priority): Ease of
use, Theme 2: Quality
>>
>> Internally at XWiki SAS we've had a brainstorming meeting with
everyone to discuss what could be the main themes for XWiki 5.x
>>
>> The result is the following:
>>
>> Theme: Speed and Simplicity
>> -----------------------------------------
>>
>> Mission:
>>
>> Improve XWiki's usage for new and regular users by improving Usability
and Usage Speed
>> in order to make XWiki simpler and faster
both from a pure performance
point of view
>> and from are user interface point of
view.
>>
>>
>> Technical details:
>>
>> - Individual Feature Improvement from a Usability perspective
including
speed of access (real time updates, commenting in activity stream)
>> - General Usability Improvements on XE
and XEM for simplicity
>> - Technical Rewrite of certain features (activity stream) for
performance
or architecture reasons
>> - General Performance Improvement of
XWiki (page loading, rendering
time)
- Bug Fixing in general
+1.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu
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