Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UX] Notifications Improvements 9.8+

On 17 Oct 2017, at 07:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <

Some ideas. I have feedback about the fact the diff is way too technical for users. Example: "What does it means???" https://img15.hostingpics.net/ pics/670307example1.png So we could hide this in a "technical details" link.

The "details" link could be replaced by a "more" link, with a very simplified diff (the complete diff would go the the technical details

In the body of the event, in addition with the title of the document, we could add some extracts of the diff. Example taken on gmail: https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/763456example2.png I hope it helps, Thanks 2017-10-12 15:38 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt;et>: > Looks nice. Does it work in all mail clients that support HTML? > > I'd like an option to show the details for all events as otherwise it's > too painful to have to open all one by one (for the use case when you

> to check everything). > > Same as Guillaume: not all events are page-related events. So we need

> handle those too. > > Thanks! > -Vincent > >> On 12 Oct 2017, at 15:03, Guillaume Delhumeau < > guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >> >> First of all, it looks very nice. >> >> Now, you said the events are displayed like in the notifications, but

>> the notifications they are ordered by dates, not by pages. Does your >> proposal imply to change the ordering? What about events that do not >> concern any page (like: "a new wiki has been created" or "a new XWiki >> version is available")? We don't have such events for now but we plan

>> have some soon. We could display them last for example. >> >> Nice CSS expand! >> >> Thanks you, >> >> 2017-10-12 14:47 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <

>> : >> >>> This is a proposal for the Notifications mail: >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>> NotificationsImprovements9xEmail >>> >>> I've continued with the 'user' avatar focused proposal, since I've >>> currently focused on the email template. If we drop the user avatar > (since >>> we group multiple users) then we can have the event/app icon instead

> the >>> avatar. >>> >>> What I want to have feedback on is the email layout, functionality

>>> navigation, details expanding) and styling. >>> >>> You can play with the Prototype >>> http://jsfiddle.net/risherry/cj25759w/embedded/#Result >>> >>> If we were to translate to the mail template, there are still some > things >>> to be tested (like translating the CSS selectors into inline, decide > what >>> email clients we support, etc.) >>> >>> Let me know, >>> Caty >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> 2017-10-03 17:32 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > valicac(a)gmail.com >>>> : >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 2017-10-02 18:09 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt;et>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:05, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Another feedback/questions: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Is the avatar icon clickable and leading to the user profile? >>>>>>>>> * We need a way to link directly to the diff, at least for page >>>>> events >>>>>>> so that the user can see what was modified (as we have currently

>>>> the >>>>>> AS) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Maybe “2 hours ago” is not precise enough. In your example I >>> see >>>> I >>>>>>> created and modified the Roadmap page but they both say “2 hours >>>> ago”. >>>>>>> Shouldn’t I be able to see how far away both events were done? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My understanding is that events are grouped by app+type but not

>>>>> entity >>>>>>> anymore (for page events) and thus you can have 3 events

>>>> for >>>>>> the >>>>>>> same page, f.ex: Creation, Modification, Deletion. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> And you could also have different users grouped in the same

>>>>>> event. So when you display the details, it would be nice to show >>> which >>>>> user >>>>>> made each event, and I see you have removed this info. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The focus of this proposal is on user, compared to the old one,

> it >>>> was >>>>> on the app/doc. >>>>> Close to what we have on Facebool. So it didn't made sense that we

>>>> that >>>>> a page has been edited by vmassol, and that the details showcase

>>>>> multiple user actually did the edit. >>>>> >>>> >>>> In Facebook, you have it actually: >>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOioRAT.png >>>> >>>> On XWiki, we have the following (already implemented): >>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOiqgYf.png >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:01, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Event Type: BlogPostPublishedEvent >>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x#HEventTypes >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ok thanks, had missed this since I was reading from top to >>> bottom >>>>> and >>>>>>> stopped at the overview :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However I don’t think it scales since it means one unique icon >>>> per >>>>>>> combination of app type + event type. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What would scale better is two icons: one for the app type and >>>> one >>>>>> for >>>>>>> the event type. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For example imagine that the Blog app had the following

>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is published >>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is created >>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is removed >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You wouldn’t be able to use the RSS icon to represent the 3 >>>> events. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> BTW the RSS icon isn’t necessarily representative of the Blog >>>> app. >>>>> A >>>>>>> lot of apps can have a RSS feed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That’s the main remark I have: it’s going to be harder and >>> harder >>>>> to >>>>>>> find unique icons as we had more events to apps, especially if >>>> there’s >>>>>> only >>>>>>> 1 icon that is supposed to combine both app type + event type. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Vincent Massol < >>>>> vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Caty, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've created some improvements suggestions for our >>>> Notifications >>>>>>> UI, see >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Re the overview, I don’t see where you mention the app? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For example, could you show how a new Blog post would be >>>>> displayed >>>>>>> and you >>>>>>>>>>>> differentiate that for example from a Page creation or >>>>>> modification? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >> Committer on the XWiki.org project > -- Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project