5 Nov
2012
5 Nov
'12
10:02 a.m.
On 10/23/2012 09:33 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Oct 23, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Ludovic Dubost
<ludovic(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi Vincent,
This is a interesting topic and there are several aspects to it.
For me the "discoverability" argument for having projects on
https://github.com/xwiki-contribdoes not make much sense. The
centralized place for projects around XWiki is
http://extensions.xwiki.org, not github. There's the "view source"
button that tells where the sources are. Github is a convenience here,
and it's always possible to "copy" (or fork) a project in xwiki-contrib,
for whatever reason (original project not active, etc.).
That being said I understand why you think it's better to have as much
projects as possible under the xwiki-contrib umbrella : it makes it a
one-stop shop with the same tools, same workflow, same permissions, etc.
Here are the arguments I see for why one contributor or contributing
organization would want to host its projects itself :
- use of own tools and own workflow (github issues vs. JIRA for example).
- it allows a contributor or contributing organization to have it's own
place to centralize its contribution(s) (the "beef up" argument as you
say). I think this can make sense in some circonstances, especially for
contributing organizations (companies for example).
The bottom line comes down to : what rules do we want for using the
"org.xwiki.contrib" groupId and tools (maven repos, CI, etc.) ?
If we want a rule saying that the project should be hosted on
github.com/xwiki-contrib/ then that's that, and I think it's fair. We
just have to decide on it (right now there is no such rule according to
http://contrib.xwiki.org/).
Jerome
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> Expéditeur: Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com> Date: 23 octobre 2012
> 09:19:55 UTC+02:00 Destinataire: XWiki Users <users(a)xwiki.org>
> Objet: Github tracker. was: Re: [xwiki-users] New Realtime
> collaborative editing extension. Just a quick. You seem to introduce
> a practice to use the github tracker instead of xwiki.org jira's Not
> sure it's a good thing. I'm sure Vincent will agree
Well, what I
would prefer personally is that contrib projects be in
the xwiki-contrib organization and use the XWiki tools (wiki, jira,
etc). The reason is that this allows: * to group together projects
around XWiki (they're not scattered everywhere on the web and harder
to find) * make it a neutral location for people to collaborate
together on xwiki projects. That's a key element to contribution IMO *
is more long term. If you stop working on the project it's not going
to be a dead project in someone's github repo and it'll have more
chance of being maintained/seen in the xwiki-contrib repo I know
Jerome also puts his contributions in his own github project and I had
the same reservation about it. We can't force anyone of course since
this is a contribution but it's more collaborative to make them
xwiki-contrib project, following the rules defined at
http://contrib.xwiki.org I understand you may want to beef up your
github profile but for collaboration I feel the xwiki-contrib is
better with the 2 arguments listed above. Jerome, Caleb let me know
what you think. Thanks -Vincent
> Ludovic Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 23 oct. 2012
à 04:17, Caleb James
> DeLisle <calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com> a écrit :
>> One other thing, please report the features which you want and what
>> you imagine as best on the github tracker, it's easier to close an
>> issue as "won't fix" than it is to remember an important issue
>> which nobody wrote down ;) Thanks Caleb On 10/22/2012 10:14 PM,
>> Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
>>> Hi, Thanks for the complement. I just updated it and fixed issue
>>> #1. Thanks for reporting it. Somehow showing who else is editing,
>>> showing where they are editing in the document and allowing the
>>> user to spawn a chat window with other editors on the page are all
>>> interesting possibilities. Right now I think the thing to do is
>>> decide where there is the most bang for your buck in terms of
>>> feature value and get an idea of what's most natural for the user.
>>> Thanks, Caleb On 10/19/2012 07:59 AM, Ryszard Łach wrote:
>>>> Great work! It looks like good starting point to give xwiki the
>>>> main (at least for me) feature, that makes googledoc sometimes
>>>> more suitable for collaborative editing. It would be really
>>>> great, if your editor would show somehow, where the other editor
>>>> (person) is now, where is his cursor. Maybe a highlight (the
>>>> whole line) showing the other's cursor placement? Do you plan to
>>>> work on such improvements? R.
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