Re: [xwiki-devs] [Brainstorming] "Child/sibling/descendant page" vs "subpage"

On 18 Sep 2015 at 11:27:33, Marius Dumitru Florea (mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com)) wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:10 PM, vincent(a)massol.net wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On 17 Sep 2015 at 13:32:28, Eduard Moraru (enygma2002@gmail.com(mailto:enygma2002@gmail.com)) wrote: >> >>> With the introduction of Nested Spaces / Nested Documents, we find >>> ourselves having to expand our terminology to accommodate the tree-like >>> structure of spaces/documents that we are managing. >>> >>> IMO, we have started going in the wrong direction with using standard tree >>> terminology directly in XWiki's UI, introducing new terms that simple users >>> could be easily confused by or overwhelmed (this adding to the already >>> existing ones). >>> >>> The specific issue I have in mind is how do we refer child entities for >>> each concept (wiki, space, page) and how does this scale when the hierarchy >>> increases. >>> >>> What I propose is that we Keep It SSimple (*™*) :) and just use the "sub" >>> prefix for the concept at hand. >>> >>> Examples: >>> * wiki -> subwiki (here we can continue using "wiki", as discussed >>> previously [1], since we don`t actually support nested wikis yet, but if >>> "subwiki" is used in a conversation it still makes perfect sense) >>> * space -> subspace [2] >>> * page -> subpage [3] >>> >>> The problem with the term "child", as pointed out by Marius in an offline >>> chat, has indeed the issue that it can only be applied correctly for first >>> level descendants, after which it becomes inaccurate, since starting with >>> the second level the term "descendant" is more appropriate. >> > >> I’m not sure about this. I think Children could be used generically to mean any level of Children but would need to be checked. > > If you have A.B.C: > > * the "Children" viewer (live table) will show "B, C" for A I think right now it also shows A but this could be fixed. > * the "Siblings" viewer (live table) will show only "B" (or nothing?) for B

There’s no sibling for C in your definition.

If you had: A.B.C A.B.D A.E Then the sibling for A.B.C would be A.B.D. Thus if you’re on A.B.C and ask for Sibling you’ll see D in the LT.

If you’re on A.B and ask for siblings you’ll see only E (and not E, C, D since C and D are not siblings of A.B).