11 Oct
2010
11 Oct
'10
noon
Hi devs,
I don't think that Monday is a good day for releases, since voting over
the weekend is not a good thing. Thus, I propose to move the general
release day to the Thursday of the week. The current release process
doesn't really follow the VOTE rules, since the way it's done is: send
vote mail at 10AM, wait a few hours, start the release around 1PM. The
rule for VOTE emails is to wait for three days.
Thus:
- Send release VOTE on Monday
- Prepare the release during the following three days (release plan,
release notes)
- Perform the maven release on Thursday, request tests for publishing
the release (testing of the build)
- Finalize the release on Friday (download, announcements, version update)
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
11 Oct
11 Oct
12:06 p.m.
+1
Caleb
On 10/11/2010 06:00 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Hi devs,
I don't think that Monday is a good day for releases, since voting over
the weekend is not a good thing. Thus, I propose to move the general
release day to the Thursday of the week. The current release process
doesn't really follow the VOTE rules, since the way it's done is: send
vote mail at 10AM, wait a few hours, start the release around 1PM. The
rule for VOTE emails is to wait for three days.
Thus:
- Send release VOTE on Monday
- Prepare the release during the following three days (release plan,
release notes)
- Perform the maven release on Thursday, request tests for publishing
the release (testing of the build)
- Finalize the release on Friday (download, announcements, version update)
12:31 p.m.
+1
Thanks,
Marius
On 10/11/2010 01:00 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Hi devs,
I don't think that Monday is a good day for releases, since voting over
the weekend is not a good thing. Thus, I propose to move the general
release day to the Thursday of the week. The current release process
doesn't really follow the VOTE rules, since the way it's done is: send
vote mail at 10AM, wait a few hours, start the release around 1PM. The
rule for VOTE emails is to wait for three days.
Thus:
- Send release VOTE on Monday
- Prepare the release during the following three days (release plan,
release notes)
- Perform the maven release on Thursday, request tests for publishing
the release (testing of the build)
- Finalize the release on Friday (download, announcements, version update)
12:33 p.m.
+1, sounds good
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:00, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
I don't think that Monday is a good day for releases, since voting over
the weekend is not a good thing. Thus, I propose to move the general
release day to the Thursday of the week. The current release process
doesn't really follow the VOTE rules, since the way it's done is: send
vote mail at 10AM, wait a few hours, start the release around 1PM. The
rule for VOTE emails is to wait for three days.
Thus:
- Send release VOTE on Monday
- Prepare the release during the following three days (release plan,
release notes)
- Perform the maven release on Thursday, request tests for publishing
the release (testing of the build)
- Finalize the release on Friday (download, announcements, version update)
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Thomas Mortagne
12:36 p.m.
+1
Regards,
Sorin B.
On 10/11/2010 01:00 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Hi devs,
I don't think that Monday is a good day for releases, since voting over
the weekend is not a good thing. Thus, I propose to move the general
release day to the Thursday of the week. The current release process
doesn't really follow the VOTE rules, since the way it's done is: send
vote mail at 10AM, wait a few hours, start the release around 1PM. The
rule for VOTE emails is to wait for three days.
Thus:
- Send release VOTE on Monday
- Prepare the release during the following three days (release plan,
release notes)
- Perform the maven release on Thursday, request tests for publishing
the release (testing of the build)
- Finalize the release on Friday (download, announcements, version update)
1:17 p.m.
Hi Sergiu,
In general yes, I would say it's ok to have it later in the week (but
rarely on Friday).
so my +1 .
However, I think the release should take less than 5 days to complete.
It really should be simpler than that.
Happy releasing,
Anca
On 11.10.2010 12:00, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Hi devs,
I don't think that Monday is a good day for releases, since voting over
the weekend is not a good thing. Thus, I propose to move the general
release day to the Thursday of the week. The current release process
doesn't really follow the VOTE rules, since the way it's done is: send
vote mail at 10AM, wait a few hours, start the release around 1PM. The
rule for VOTE emails is to wait for three days.
Thus:
- Send release VOTE on Monday
- Prepare the release during the following three days (release plan,
release notes)
- Perform the maven release on Thursday, request tests for publishing
the release (testing of the build)
- Finalize the release on Friday (download, announcements, version update)
1:36 p.m.
+1
Alex
On 10/11/2010 12:00 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Hi devs,
I don't think that Monday is a good day for releases, since voting over
the weekend is not a good thing. Thus, I propose to move the general
release day to the Thursday of the week. The current release process
doesn't really follow the VOTE rules, since the way it's done is: send
vote mail at 10AM, wait a few hours, start the release around 1PM. The
rule for VOTE emails is to wait for three days.
Thus:
- Send release VOTE on Monday
- Prepare the release during the following three days (release plan,
release notes)
- Perform the maven release on Thursday, request tests for publishing
the release (testing of the build)
- Finalize the release on Friday (download, announcements, version update)
2:57 p.m.
On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Hi devs,
I don't think that Monday is a good day for releases, since voting over
the weekend is not a good thing. Thus, I propose to move the general
release day to the Thursday of the week. The current release process
doesn't really follow the VOTE rules, since the way it's done is: send
vote mail at 10AM, wait a few hours, start the release around 1PM. The
rule for VOTE emails is to wait for three days.
Thus:
- Send release VOTE on Monday
- Prepare the release during the following three days (release plan,
release notes)
- Perform the maven release on Thursday, request tests for publishing
the release (testing of the build)
- Finalize the release on Friday (download, announcements, version update)
-0
For me the process should be:
- Release Manager performs the release in the staging repo on the planned day (planned
during the roadmap process), whatever the day
- A vote is sent to release it 3 days later. This means users and devs get a chance to
test the version that will be released
- if the vote is passed then the Release Manager promotes the release
Note: When we do roadmap emails we should differentiate RC1 (== staging) from Final by at
least 3 days, I think 5 days is safer though.
Thanks
-Vincent
12 Oct
12 Oct
9:47 a.m.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 14:57, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Sounds good to me, but I also agree with Sergiu that we should avoid release
on Mondays, which could reduce the testing time of the staging release due
to the WE. So having official release date on thursday and starting release
on Friday or Monday when we are late, could probably helps.
WDYT ?
Denis
Hi devs,
I don't think that Monday is a good day for releases, since voting over
the weekend is not a good thing. Thus, I propose to move the general
release day to the Thursday of the week. The current release process
doesn't really follow the VOTE rules, since the way it's done is: send
vote mail at 10AM, wait a few hours, start the release around 1PM. The
rule for VOTE emails is to wait for three days.
Thus:
- Send release VOTE on Monday
- Prepare the release during the following three days (release plan,
release notes)
- Perform the maven release on Thursday, request tests for publishing
the release (testing of the build)
- Finalize the release on Friday (download, announcements, version
update)
-0
For me the process should be:
- Release Manager performs the release in the staging repo on the planned
day (planned during the roadmap process), whatever the day
- A vote is sent to release it 3 days later. This means users and devs get
a chance to test the version that will be released
- if the vote is passed then the Release Manager promotes the release
Note: When we do roadmap emails we should differentiate RC1 (== staging)
from Final by at least 3 days, I think 5 days is safer though.
Thanks
-Vincent
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14 Oct
14 Oct
7:17 p.m.
Hi,
+1 on the stages of the process, with the mention that it should be done in
less then 5 days.
-0 on finalizing/announcing the release on Friday. IMHO it's worst day to
release(lower visibility, low user traction, offline xwiki personnel during
the days following the release).
Thanks,
Florin Ciubotaru
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
I don't think that Monday is a good day for releases, since voting over
the weekend is not a good thing. Thus, I propose to move the general
release day to the Thursday of the week. The current release process
doesn't really follow the VOTE rules, since the way it's done is: send
vote mail at 10AM, wait a few hours, start the release around 1PM. The
rule for VOTE emails is to wait for three days.
Thus:
- Send release VOTE on Monday
- Prepare the release during the following three days (release plan,
release notes)
- Perform the maven release on Thursday, request tests for publishing
the release (testing of the build)
- Finalize the release on Friday (download, announcements, version update)
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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Alex Busenius -
Anca Luca -
Caleb James DeLisle -
Denis Gervalle -
Florin Ciubotaru -
Marius Dumitru Florea -
Sergiu Dumitriu -
Sorin Burjan -
Thomas Mortagne -
Vincent Massol