11 Aug
2010
11 Aug
'10
2:52 p.m.
Hi,
I'm near to finish my MediaWiki2XWiki migration "toolkit".
I've developed such, to migrate our homegrown MediaWiki installation
to XWiki.
The footprint of our Wiki is about 230 pages with around 570
attachments.
This will end up in round about 150MB of data. Not that big,
but to much to migrate it manually ;-)
I'm dumping the MediaWiki content (exported XML) into wikimodel
and wrote a XWiki/2.0 serializer. After resolving all templates
and downloading the attachments, they get renamed to fit the XWiki
rules.
Afterwards they are uploaded automatically (including all files and
images)
to your XWiki instance.
The process is splitted into two steps: "extraction and preparation"
and "uploading". Everyone with some basic skills in Java and Eclipse
can use this "toolkit".
But it doesn't claim to be an end user ready to use product ;-)
I want to contribute it to your XWiki Code section (apache license).
Any doubts from your side or I'm free to do so?
Regards
Martin
11 Aug
11 Aug
4:45 p.m.
My understanding is contributions to code.xwiki.org can be licensed as anything
you want as long as the license is clearly displayed.
Thanks for the contribution!
Caleb
Kirst Martin Wolfgang wrote:
Hi,
I'm near to finish my MediaWiki2XWiki migration "toolkit".
I've developed such, to migrate our homegrown MediaWiki installation
to XWiki.
The footprint of our Wiki is about 230 pages with around 570
attachments.
This will end up in round about 150MB of data. Not that big,
but to much to migrate it manually ;-)
I'm dumping the MediaWiki content (exported XML) into wikimodel
and wrote a XWiki/2.0 serializer. After resolving all templates
and downloading the attachments, they get renamed to fit the XWiki
rules.
Afterwards they are uploaded automatically (including all files and
images)
to your XWiki instance.
The process is splitted into two steps: "extraction and preparation"
and "uploading". Everyone with some basic skills in Java and Eclipse
can use this "toolkit".
But it doesn't claim to be an end user ready to use product ;-)
I want to contribute it to your XWiki Code section (apache license).
Any doubts from your side or I'm free to do so?
Regards
Martin
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12 Aug
12 Aug
2:22 p.m.
Fine with me,
thanks for the contribution.
Anca
On 08/11/2010 03:52 PM, Kirst Martin Wolfgang wrote:
Hi,
I'm near to finish my MediaWiki2XWiki migration "toolkit".
I've developed such, to migrate our homegrown MediaWiki installation
to XWiki.
The footprint of our Wiki is about 230 pages with around 570
attachments.
This will end up in round about 150MB of data. Not that big,
but to much to migrate it manually ;-)
I'm dumping the MediaWiki content (exported XML) into wikimodel
and wrote a XWiki/2.0 serializer. After resolving all templates
and downloading the attachments, they get renamed to fit the XWiki
rules.
Afterwards they are uploaded automatically (including all files and
images)
to your XWiki instance.
The process is splitted into two steps: "extraction and preparation"
and "uploading". Everyone with some basic skills in Java and Eclipse
can use this "toolkit".
But it doesn't claim to be an end user ready to use product ;-)
I want to contribute it to your XWiki Code section (apache license).
Any doubts from your side or I'm free to do so?
Regards
Martin
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2:57 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 14:52, Kirst Martin Wolfgang
<MKirst(a)portolancs.com> wrote:
Hi,
I'm near to finish my MediaWiki2XWiki migration "toolkit".
I've developed such, to migrate our homegrown MediaWiki installation
to XWiki.
The footprint of our Wiki is about 230 pages with around 570
attachments.
This will end up in round about 150MB of data. Not that big,
but to much to migrate it manually ;-)
I'm dumping the MediaWiki content (exported XML) into wikimodel
and wrote a XWiki/2.0 serializer. After resolving all templates
and downloading the attachments, they get renamed to fit the XWiki
rules.
Afterwards they are uploaded automatically (including all files and
images)
to your XWiki instance.
The process is splitted into two steps: "extraction and preparation"
and "uploading". Everyone with some basic skills in Java and Eclipse
can use this "toolkit".
But it doesn't claim to be an end user ready to use product ;-)
I want to contribute it to your XWiki Code section (apache license).
Any doubts from your side or I'm free to do so?
Note: there is a wiki importer framework in process (with a MediaWiki
module working POC already) on
http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib/sandbox/xwiki-wikiimporter/.
It's supposed to be run inside XWiki but most it's code does not
really need to be run inside XWiki (basically only the part that save
the converted document needs that).
Also there is already an official XWiki serializer you can find in the
XWiki Rendering framework (see
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Modules/RenderingModule) that can
be used outside of XWiki. The wiki importer framework is based on
XWiki Rendering module.
That was the note, now let's say competition is good so lets go for it
and at some point we should try to share as much as possible the work
done ;)
Regards
Martin
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13 Aug
13 Aug
4:32 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 14:52, Kirst Martin Wolfgang
<MKirst(a)portolancs.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm near to finish my MediaWiki2XWiki migration "toolkit".
> I've developed such, to migrate our homegrown MediaWiki installation
> to XWiki.
> The footprint of our Wiki is about 230 pages with around 570
> attachments.
> This will end up in round about 150MB of data. Not that big,
> but to much to migrate it manually ;-)
>
> I'm dumping the MediaWiki content (exported XML) into wikimodel
> and wrote a XWiki/2.0 serializer. After resolving all templates
> and downloading the attachments, they get renamed to fit the XWiki
> rules.
> Afterwards they are uploaded automatically (including all files and
> images)
> to your XWiki instance.
>
> The process is splitted into two steps: "extraction and preparation"
> and "uploading". Everyone with some basic skills in Java and Eclipse
> can use this "toolkit".
> But it doesn't claim to be an end user ready to use product ;-)
>
> I want to contribute it to your XWiki Code section (apache license).
>
> Any doubts from your side or I'm free to do so?
Note: there is a wiki importer framework in process
(with a MediaWiki
module working POC already) on
http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib/sandbox/xwiki-wikiimporter/.
It's supposed to be run inside XWiki but most
it's code does not
really need to be run inside XWiki (basically only the part that save
the converted document needs that).
Also there is already an official XWiki serializer you can find in the
XWiki Rendering framework (see
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Modules/RenderingModule) that can
be used outside of XWiki. The wiki importer framework is based on
XWiki Rendering module.
That was the note, now let's say competition is
good so lets go for it
and at some point we should try to share as much as possible the work
done ;)
Interesting point.
I've watch at it, but it seems to be a different approach to me.
Cause, I've had a more complete batch migration in mind, not so much
focussed on having a fancy wizard for.
Additionally setting up my Eclipse workspace with just XMLRPC-API and
wikimodel was way easier ;-) So it was simpler to patch/enhance
wikimodel
for my tasks.
But as I read on page 'RenderingModel' your importer also uses
wikimodel.
Thus my patches also benefit your project :-)
And of course I'm open for sharing work and thoughts.
Regards
Martin
6:10 p.m.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 16:32, Kirst Martin Wolfgang
<MKirst(a)portolancs.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 14:52, Kirst Martin Wolfgang
<MKirst(a)portolancs.com> wrote:
I don't understand what you mean here, wiki importer goal is to import
complete wikis. The UI part is just on the framework side and when you
wriite a wiki importer module you don't really care about that and
just declare what you want to get as parameter (the file containing an
exported wiki, the URL of a wiki to import using REST, etc...), then
you do whatever you want with this.
IMO both project could use the exact same code for the MediaWiki ->
XWiki convertion which is what is in the MediaWiki module of wiki
importer, then the UI and the way to store the produced documents
depends of the tool.
> Hi,
>
> I'm near to finish my MediaWiki2XWiki migration "toolkit".
> I've developed such, to migrate our homegrown MediaWiki installation
> to XWiki.
> The footprint of our Wiki is about 230 pages with around 570
> attachments.
> This will end up in round about 150MB of data. Not that big,
> but to much to migrate it manually ;-)
>
> I'm dumping the MediaWiki content (exported XML) into wikimodel
> and wrote a XWiki/2.0 serializer. After resolving all templates
> and downloading the attachments, they get renamed to fit the XWiki
> rules.
> Afterwards they are uploaded automatically (including all files and
> images)
> to your XWiki instance.
>
> The process is splitted into two steps: "extraction and preparation"
> and "uploading". Everyone with some basic skills in Java and Eclipse
> can use this "toolkit".
> But it doesn't claim to be an end user ready to use product ;-)
>
> I want to contribute it to your XWiki Code section (apache license).
>
> Any doubts from your side or I'm free to do so?
Note: there is a wiki importer framework in
process (with a MediaWiki
module working POC already) on
http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib/sandbox/xwiki-wikiimporter/.
It's supposed to be run inside XWiki but most
it's code does not
really need to be run inside XWiki (basically only the part that save
the converted document needs that).
Also there is already an official XWiki serializer you can find in the
XWiki Rendering framework (see
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Modules/RenderingModule) that can
be used outside of XWiki. The wiki importer framework is based on
XWiki Rendering module.
That was the note, now let's say competition
is good so lets go for it
and at some point we should try to share as much as possible the work
done ;)
Interesting point.
I've watch at it, but it seems to be a different approach to me.
Cause, I've had a more complete batch migration in mind, not so much
focussed on having a fancy wizard for. Additionally setting up my Eclipse workspace with just
XMLRPC-API and
wikimodel was way easier ;-) So it was simpler to patch/enhance
wikimodel
for my tasks.
With M2Eclipse it's very easy to use XWiki Rendering in a new project.
But as I read on page 'RenderingModel' your
importer also uses
wikimodel.
Thus my patches also benefit your project :-)
Actually wiki importer use XWiki Rendering which use WikiModel
specifically for the MediaWiki parser but use it's own XWiki 2.0
serializer, use Doxia for other languages etc...
And of course I'm open for sharing work and
thoughts.
Regards
Martin
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6:39 p.m.
[...]
Interesting point.
I've watch at it, but it seems to be a different approach to me.
Cause, I've had a more complete batch migration in mind, not so much
focussed on having a fancy wizard for.
I don't understand what you mean here, wiki importer goal is to import
complete wikis. The UI part is just on the framework side and when you
wriite a wiki importer module you don't really care about that and
just declare what you want to get as parameter (the file containing an
exported wiki, the URL of a wiki to import using REST, etc...), then
you do whatever you want with this.
IMO both project could use the exact same code for the MediaWiki ->
XWiki convertion which is what is in the MediaWiki module of wiki
importer, then the UI and the way to store the produced documents
depends of the tool.
> Additionally setting up my Eclipse workspace with just XMLRPC-API
and
wikimodel was
way easier ;-) So it was simpler to patch/enhance
wikimodel
for my tasks.
With M2Eclipse it's very easy to use XWiki Rendering in a new project. But as I read
on page 'RenderingModel' your importer also uses
wikimodel.
Thus my patches also benefit your project :-)
Actually wiki importer use XWiki Rendering which use WikiModel
specifically for the MediaWiki parser but use it's own XWiki 2.0
serializer, use Doxia for other languages etc...
8:07 p.m.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 18:39, Kirst Martin Wolfgang
<MKirst(a)portolancs.com> wrote:
Oh, than I misunderstood this importer
project. Sorry about that.
Hmm,
not to my experience. I've tried maven a couple of times for
different open source projects I've worked on.
I'm willing to learn about, but most often I was disappointed.
Even after reading the XWiki building instructions it tooks me hours
to brought up an error free workspace.
I do that all the time when we create a new branch of XWiki and it is
always very easy.
[...]
Interesting point.
I've watch at it, but it seems to be a different approach to me.
Cause, I've had a more complete batch migration in mind, not so much
focussed on having a fancy wizard for.
I don't understand what you mean here, wiki importer goal is to import
complete wikis. The UI part is just on the framework side and when you
wriite a wiki importer module you don't really care about that and
just declare what you want to get as parameter (the file containing an
exported wiki, the URL of a wiki to import using REST, etc...), then
you do whatever you want with this.
IMO both project could use the exact same code for the MediaWiki ->
XWiki convertion which is what is in the MediaWiki module of wiki
importer, then the UI and the way to store the produced documents
depends of the tool.
> Additionally setting up my Eclipse workspace with just XMLRPC-API
and
wikimodel
was way easier ;-) So it was simpler to patch/enhance
wikimodel
for my tasks.
With M2Eclipse it's very easy to use XWiki Rendering in a new project. Even 'svn co xwiki core && mvn
install' is not possible without
manually importing some unresolved JARs - easy to solve, but annoying.
This should never happen and when it does weusually see and fix it very quickly.
After all, I've ended up with problems regarding
missing dependencies
of XWiki's own DI framework. Oh ... I'm drifting away ;-)
My patches also targeting the
parser code ...
Writing my own serializer was more a need because wikimodel doesn't have
one
and I didn't want to have xwiki code base in my dependencies (see
above).
Again using XWiki Rendering is like using any other independent tool
like wikimodel. It has been designed to be used outside of XWiki core,
the only other XWiki module it really depends on is the XWiki
Component Manager module which is also independent and pretty small.
Basically you make your project depends on
http://maven.xwiki.org/snapshots/org/xwiki/platform/xwiki-core-rendering-sy…
and see what dependencies you get. It will be more dependencies than
wikimodel of course but not so much and it would be a lot better to
use the official XWiki serializer and is a big work and is a well
tested.
But as I
read on page 'RenderingModel' your importer also uses
wikimodel.
Thus my patches also benefit your project :-)
Actually wiki importer use XWiki Rendering which use WikiModel
specifically for the MediaWiki parser but use it's own XWiki 2.0
serializer, use Doxia for other languages etc...
I would really give the importer framework a try, but currently I don't
know where to start actually - and POC or not, it shouldn't be take
any skilled Java developer more than 2 hours to bring it up and running.
It would be easier for me and others, when there would be
a documentation "how to setup (sandbox) xwiki importer framework".
Then, most likely my starting point would have been a different one.
Sure, thing is there is still crappy things in the wiki importer
framework I really don't like and that I would like to change when i
have some time before putting it in standard with the MediaWiki
module, then i will write some documentation for people to add more
importers.
Regards
Martin
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