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Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)

23 Feb 2011 23 Feb '11

6:48 p.m.

Hi, I've made a proposal on how to integrate keyboard shortcuts into UI http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/KeyboardShortcuts Thanks, Caty

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Jerome Velociter

23 Feb 23 Feb

6:56 p.m.

+1 Good feature to have. Jerome On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, I've made a proposal on how to integrate keyboard shortcuts into UI http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/KeyboardShortcuts Thanks, Caty _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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Sergiu Dumitriu

7:03 p.m.

On 02/23/2011 06:48 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:

Hi, I've made a proposal on how to integrate keyboard shortcuts into UI http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/KeyboardShortcuts

Looks good, but the changes to the QuickLinks panel are bad, IMO. - The (edit this panel) link is useful for new admins, since it's not that straight-forward how to edit the quick links panel, without reading a bit of documentation, so I'm -1 for removing it. - The "jump to any page" text is useful when the shortcuts don't work, since clicking it also displays the jump dialog. For example, the shortcut doesn't work for me in Chromium/KDE/Linux, where Ctrl+G displays the browser's quick search, and Meta+G is captured as a simple G which opens the WYSIWYG editor. Does it work on Mac or Windows? -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/

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Jerome Velociter

7:18 p.m.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

On 02/23/2011 06:48 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:

Hi, I've made a proposal on how to integrate keyboard shortcuts into UI http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/KeyboardShortcuts

Looks good, but the changes to the QuickLinks panel are bad, IMO. - The (edit this panel) link is useful for new admins, since it's not that straight-forward how to edit the quick links panel, without reading a bit of documentation, so I'm -1 for removing it. - The "jump to any page" text is useful when the shortcuts don't work, since clicking it also displays the jump dialog. For example, the shortcut doesn't work for me in Chromium/KDE/Linux, where Ctrl+G displays the browser's quick search, and Meta+G is captured as a simple G which opens the WYSIWYG editor. Does it work on Mac or Windows?

Yes, it works on Mac, with the apple key and/or command key (depends on the browser). In my opinion, if we were to keep this shortcut, it should be in the panel content, not injected in JavaScript. People are complaining they can't find out how to remove it. Also Meta+G is HIGHLY technical for most users. There should at least be a tooltip that explains what it means. Or better, remove the Meta+G shorcut info from the panel, and put it directly in the jump to page light box, with visual representation of the shortcut like in Caty's proposal. Generally I think the box that sums up all shortcuts is good. On a case by case basis there should be shortcut information also displayed in context of the feature (like copy page, rename page, jump to page, etc.). This helps people discover and learn about shortcuts. Jerome

-- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)

7:38 p.m.

IMO 'jump to any page' is just a feature and shouldn't be displayed in a special manner than any other feature is (right now is bold black with a different position and font size + shortcut key attached). If we really want to keep it in "Quick Links" panel then we can put it after 'Sandbox', with title 'Jump to any page', but without the shortcut key representation. The short cut key will be displayed with all the other keys in the Shortcuts list. Also if the shortcut doesn't work cross platform IMO this should be fixed or the key (G) removed with another key that don't causes conflicts. About '(edit this panel)' IMO this isn't consistent with anything we have in XWiki and should be removed. Solutions: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/BlogComponentC… Thanks, Caty On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 20:18, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

On 02/23/2011 06:48 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > Hi, > > I've made a proposal on how to integrate keyboard shortcuts into UI >

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/KeyboardShortcuts

Looks good, but the changes to the QuickLinks panel are bad, IMO. - The (edit this panel) link is useful for new admins, since it's not that straight-forward how to edit the quick links panel, without reading a bit of documentation, so I'm -1 for removing it. - The "jump to any page" text is useful when the shortcuts don't work, since clicking it also displays the jump dialog. For example, the shortcut doesn't work for me in Chromium/KDE/Linux, where Ctrl+G displays the browser's quick search, and Meta+G is captured as a simple G which opens the WYSIWYG editor. Does it work on Mac or Windows?

Yes, it works on Mac, with the apple key and/or command key (depends on the browser). In my opinion, if we were to keep this shortcut, it should be in the panel content, not injected in JavaScript. People are complaining they can't find out how to remove it. Also Meta+G is HIGHLY technical for most users. There should at least be a tooltip that explains what it means. Or better, remove the Meta+G shorcut info from the panel, and put it directly in the jump to page light box, with visual representation of the shortcut like in Caty's proposal. Generally I think the box that sums up all shortcuts is good. On a case by case basis there should be shortcut information also displayed in context of the feature (like copy page, rename page, jump to page, etc.). This helps people discover and learn about shortcuts. Jerome

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jstoldt

24 Feb 24 Feb

8:48 a.m.

Ctrl + G or Meta + G doesn't work on Windows 7 with Opera 11.01 and IE8. Anyway, I like the proposal in general. -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/UX-Proposal-Add-a-list-with-keyboard-shor… Sent from the XWiki- Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Thibaut DEVERAUX

26 Feb 26 Feb

1:42 p.m.

Hi, Seems this type of feature can be very usefull or just overloading... depending on community type (intranet/general community, people on it), and on each user. It may be a good idea to have admin option to : - activate it by default on the whoole wiki - unactivate it by default and let the user activate it if needed Thibaut DEVERAUX Tel : 06 75 51 20 80 thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com http://www.thib-d.com Skype : thibaut.deveraux @ Bricks, design et accompagnement projet t.deveraux(a)bricks-studio.com Découvrir Bricks : bricks-studio.com L'actualité du studio sur notre blog : bricks-it.com Se renseigner sur le design : design-keys.org 2011/2/24 jstoldt <j.stoldt(a)gmx.net>

Ctrl + G or Meta + G doesn't work on Windows 7 with Opera 11.01 and IE8. Anyway, I like the proposal in general. -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/UX-Proposal-Add-a-list-with-keyboard-shor… Sent from the XWiki- Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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Jean-Vincent Drean

23 Feb 23 Feb

7:31 p.m.

Hi, I like the proposal. It would be nice to think about having a shortcut to display this help screen, I like a lot the '?' in gmail. I agree with Jerome about the fact that injecting the jumpToPage is annoying for users wishing to remove it. JV. On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, I've made a proposal on how to integrate keyboard shortcuts into UI http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/KeyboardShortcuts Thanks, Caty _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
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Jerome Velociter
jstoldt
Sergiu Dumitriu
Thibaut DEVERAUX