23 Jan
2009
23 Jan
'09
7:58 a.m.
Hi devs,
Just found this plugin which sounds pretty promising:
http://hudson.gotdns.com/wiki/display/HUDSON/The+Continuous+Integration+Gam…
I think our build is failing a bit too frequently and we're not always
paying enough attention to checkstyle rules(me included) and the like
so maybe this game idea could help us in this direction.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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http://xwiki.org
http://massol.net
23 Jan
23 Jan
9:07 a.m.
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Good idea but what is the reward (beside the satisfaction being a skilled
coder) ? In fact, this is the main question :)
Pascal
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
Just found this plugin which sounds pretty promising:
http://hudson.gotdns.com/wiki/display/HUDSON/The+Continuous+Integration+Gam…
I think our build is failing a bit too frequently and we're not always
paying enough attention to checkstyle rules(me included) and the like
so maybe this game idea could help us in this direction.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
http://xwiki.com
http://xwiki.org
http://massol.net
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10:01 a.m.
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That's funny... but the rules are not good, it should rather be :
0 points for doing a build with no failure (instead of +1, so that there
is no incentive to commit more)
+1 point for stabilizing a failing build (instead of ?)
Jerome
Pascal Voitot wrote:
Good idea but what is the reward (beside the
satisfaction being a skilled
coder) ? In fact, this is the main question :)
Pascal
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
Just found this plugin which sounds pretty promising:
http://hudson.gotdns.com/wiki/display/HUDSON/The+Continuous+Integration+Gam…
I think our build is failing a bit too frequently and we're not always
paying enough attention to checkstyle rules(me included) and the like
so maybe this game idea could help us in this direction.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
http://xwiki.com
http://xwiki.org
http://massol.net
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On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
That's funny... but the rules are not good, it
should rather be :
0 points for doing a build with no failure (instead of +1, so that
there
is no incentive to commit more)
Actually there must be an incentive to commit more. People who don't
commit often keep their code on their machine which means their code
doesn't get integrated with the rest thus leading to integration
issues later on and delays. The more commits the better. And since
when you commit you must be careful not to break the rule or you'll
get -10 that is balanced IMO :)
I'd suggest to keep the default values to start with and adjust later
if we find some bias.
-Vincent
+1 point for stabilizing a failing build (instead of
?)
Jerome
Pascal Voitot wrote:
> Good idea but what is the reward (beside the satisfaction being a
> skilled
> coder) ? In fact, this is the main question :)
>
> Pascal
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Vincent Massol
> <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi devs,
>>
>> Just found this plugin which sounds pretty promising:
>>
>>
http://hudson.gotdns.com/wiki/display/HUDSON/The+Continuous+Integration+Gam…
>>
>> I think our build is failing a bit too frequently and we're not
>> always
>> paying enough attention to checkstyle rules(me included) and the
>> like
>> so maybe this game idea could help us in this direction.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> http://xwiki.com
>> http://xwiki.org
>> http://massol.net
5:57 p.m.
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
+1, if it makes people cut commits in small non breaking parts to get
more point it's great ;)
That's funny... but the rules are not good,
it should rather be :
0 points for doing a build with no failure (instead of +1, so that
there
is no incentive to commit more)
Actually there must be an incentive to commit more. People who don't
commit often keep their code on their machine which means their code
doesn't get integrated with the rest thus leading to integration
issues later on and delays. The more commits the better. And since
when you commit you must be careful not to break the rule or you'll
get -10 that is balanced IMO :)
I'd suggest to keep the default values to start with and adjust later
if we find some bias.
-Vincent
--
Thomas Mortagne
+1 point for stabilizing a failing build (instead
of ?)
Jerome
Pascal Voitot wrote:
> Good idea but what is the reward (beside the satisfaction being a
> skilled
> coder) ? In fact, this is the main question :)
>
> Pascal
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Vincent Massol
> <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi devs,
>>
>> Just found this plugin which sounds pretty promising:
>>
>>
http://hudson.gotdns.com/wiki/display/HUDSON/The+Continuous+Integration+Gam…
>>
>> I think our build is failing a bit too frequently and we're not
>> always
>> paying enough attention to checkstyle rules(me included) and the
>> like
>> so maybe this game idea could help us in this direction.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> http://xwiki.com
>> http://xwiki.org
>> http://massol.net
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10:30 a.m.
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Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi devs,
Just found this plugin which sounds pretty promising:
http://hudson.gotdns.com/wiki/display/HUDSON/The+Continuous+Integration+Gam…
I think our build is failing a bit too frequently and we're not always
paying enough attention to checkstyle rules(me included) and the like
so maybe this game idea could help us in this direction.
WDYT?
+1
sounds cool, with Jerome's mention that the points system should be
proportional, so that people that commit less have the chance to have just as
many points as people that commit more.
Now we only need to make sure people won't start stacking patches on their
machines to stay at 0.
Happy (clean) coding,
Anca Luca
Thanks
-Vincent
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10:51 a.m.
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+1 Sounds good to me too.
Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi devs,
Just found this plugin which sounds pretty promising:
http://hudson.gotdns.com/wiki/display/HUDSON/The+Continuous+Integration+Gam…
I think our build is failing a bit too frequently and we're not always
paying enough attention to checkstyle rules(me included) and the like
so maybe this game idea could help us in this direction.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
http://xwiki.com
http://xwiki.org
http://massol.net
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12:19 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Want to play a game with our build system and Hudson?
The rules can be modified to our requirements, but the idea is great.
P.S.: Every release or so we should reset the scores to give others a
fighting chance :P
+1. Cool idea.
Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi devs,
Just found this plugin which sounds pretty promising:
http://hudson.gotdns.com/wiki/display/HUDSON/The+Continuous+Integration+Gam…
I think our build is failing a bit too frequently and we're not always
paying enough attention to checkstyle rules(me included) and the like
so maybe this game idea could help us in this direction.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
http://xwiki.com
http://xwiki.org
http://massol.net
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12:27 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Want to play a game with our build system and Hudson?
The rules can be modified to our requirements, but the idea is great.
P.S.: Every release or so we should reset the scores to give others a
fighting chance :P
Or we can start with 100 points for each comitter, just to make sure nobody
gets minus marks :P
+1
- Asiri
26 Jan
26 Jan
6:29 p.m.
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Hi,
Great idea!
Since we all agree I've installed the game on our CI and activated it
in the following projects :
core*, enterprise*, enterprise manager*, every plugins, every tools,
every applications.
JV.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
Just found this plugin which sounds pretty promising:
http://hudson.gotdns.com/wiki/display/HUDSON/The+Continuous+Integration+Gam…
I think our build is failing a bit too frequently and we're not always
paying enough attention to checkstyle rules(me included) and the like
so maybe this game idea could help us in this direction.
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