24 Mar
2011
24 Mar
'11
6:28 p.m.
Hi all,
starting from the need of the dashboards, to specify the default edit
mode for a page, here's how I would like to implement it, in the
following days.
Context:
There is already a mechanism for this, which works like this: if,
document A includes sheet B and sheet B has an object of type
"XWiki.SheetClass", then clicking the edit button of document A will
automatically open the edit mode specified in the XWiki.SheetClass
object of the sheet B.
Proposal:
1/ I propose an enhancement of the existing mechanism, to allow such an
XWiki.SheetClass object to be attached to the document A directly.
Namely the edit mode for the document A will be read first from the
objects of type XWiki.SheetClass in document A, then if none found, from
the objects in the included sheet.
2/ XWiki.SheetClass should be renamed to XWiki.EditModeClass, or
XWiki.DefaultEditModeClass, or something alike, that suggests its
purpose. Current class name will be deprecated but still preserved for a
good while. What would be your name proposals for this?
3/ optionally, we could deprecate the current mechanism, and say that
objects should never be attached to sheets anymore, only to pages. This
way, the usecase of a sheet should be implemented by adding the
EditModeClass object in the template from which docs are created, so
that it can be easily propagated to a set of documents.
I am not against the current mechanism, I think it's a nice helper, and
the replacing implementation has the drawback of making it mandatory to
create documents through templates, or manually adding this object in
the doc creation code. Therefore, I would be -0.5 on this.
WDYT?
4/ optionally, add an edit mode panel (or whatever we want to replace
them with) to change this from a nice UI. This can turn out useful in
cases when such an edit object is added automatically (e.g. dashboards)
and when it's no longer needed (dashboard macro call is deleted from the
page), the default edit mode still stays the one set automatically. This
is very optional, as I see little cases when users would delete just
the macro call, and not the page as a whole.
Thanks,
Anca
24 Mar
24 Mar
6:37 p.m.
On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Luca Anca wrote:
Hi all,
starting from the need of the dashboards, to specify the default edit
mode for a page, here's how I would like to implement it, in the
following days.
Context:
There is already a mechanism for this, which works like this: if,
document A includes sheet B and sheet B has an object of type
"XWiki.SheetClass", then clicking the edit button of document A will
automatically open the edit mode specified in the XWiki.SheetClass
object of the sheet B.
Proposal:
1/ I propose an enhancement of the existing mechanism, to allow such an
XWiki.SheetClass object to be attached to the document A directly.
Namely the edit mode for the document A will be read first from the
objects of type XWiki.SheetClass in document A, then if none found, from
the objects in the included sheet.
2/ XWiki.SheetClass should be renamed to XWiki.EditModeClass, or
XWiki.DefaultEditModeClass, or something alike, that suggests its
purpose. Current class name will be deprecated but still preserved for a
good while. What would be your name proposals for this?
XWiki.EditModeClass is good for me.
3/ optionally, we could deprecate the current
mechanism, and say that
objects should never be attached to sheets anymore, only to pages. This
way, the usecase of a sheet should be implemented by adding the
EditModeClass object in the template from which docs are created, so
that it can be easily propagated to a set of documents.
I am not against the current mechanism, I think it's a nice helper, and
the replacing implementation has the drawback of making it mandatory to
create documents through templates, or manually adding this object in
the doc creation code. Therefore, I would be -0.5 on this.
WDYT?
For sake of simplicity I'd be for deprecating the current mechanism and replace it
with the new one.
4/ optionally, add an edit mode panel (or whatever we
want to replace
them with) to change this from a nice UI. This can turn out useful in
cases when such an edit object is added automatically (e.g. dashboards)
and when it's no longer needed (dashboard macro call is deleted from the
page), the default edit mode still stays the one set automatically. This
is very optional, as I see little cases when users would delete just
the macro call, and not the page as a whole.
Agreed that it's very optional as this stage.
+1 in general
Thanks
-Vincent
11:33 p.m.
On 03/24/2011 07:28 PM, Luca Anca wrote:
Hi all,
starting from the need of the dashboards, to specify the default edit
mode for a page, here's how I would like to implement it, in the
following days.
Context:
There is already a mechanism for this, which works like this: if,
document A includes sheet B and sheet B has an object of type
"XWiki.SheetClass", then clicking the edit button of document A will
automatically open the edit mode specified in the XWiki.SheetClass
object of the sheet B.
Proposal:
1/ I propose an enhancement of the existing mechanism, to allow such an
XWiki.SheetClass object to be attached to the document A directly.
Namely the edit mode for the document A will be read first from the
objects of type XWiki.SheetClass in document A, then if none found, from
the objects in the included sheet.
2/ XWiki.SheetClass should be renamed to XWiki.EditModeClass, or
XWiki.DefaultEditModeClass, or something alike, that suggests its
purpose. Current class name will be deprecated but still preserved for a
good while. What would be your name proposals for this?
3/ optionally, we could deprecate the current mechanism, and say that
objects should never be attached to sheets anymore, only to pages. This
way, the usecase of a sheet should be implemented by adding the
EditModeClass object in the template from which docs are created, so
that it can be easily propagated to a set of documents.
I am not against the current mechanism, I think it's a nice helper, and
the replacing implementation has the drawback of making it mandatory to
create documents through templates, or manually adding this object in
the doc creation code. Therefore, I would be -0.5 on this.
WDYT?
4/ optionally, add an edit mode panel (or whatever we want to replace
them with) to change this from a nice UI. This can turn out useful in
cases when such an edit object is added automatically (e.g. dashboards)
and when it's no longer needed (dashboard macro call is deleted from the
page), the default edit mode still stays the one set automatically. This
is very optional, as I see little cases when users would delete just
the macro call, and not the page as a whole.
Thanks,
Anca
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+1 for the idea.
As a side note, I`d like it if we went even further with this and create
a "Page Preferences" section, just like we have for space and wiki,
where we could specify things like default edit mode or whatever wiki or
application specific stuff. These preferences would materialize in
objects being added to the current page.
WDYT?
Thanks,
Eduard
11:49 p.m.
On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote:
On 03/24/2011 07:28 PM, Luca Anca wrote:
Indeed, I thought about this too but in the end I thought that it would be better to have
specific objects for each "preference" that is required instead of a single
large do-it-all preference object.
-Vincent
Hi all,
starting from the need of the dashboards, to specify the default edit
mode for a page, here's how I would like to implement it, in the
following days.
Context:
There is already a mechanism for this, which works like this: if,
document A includes sheet B and sheet B has an object of type
"XWiki.SheetClass", then clicking the edit button of document A will
automatically open the edit mode specified in the XWiki.SheetClass
object of the sheet B.
Proposal:
1/ I propose an enhancement of the existing mechanism, to allow such an
XWiki.SheetClass object to be attached to the document A directly.
Namely the edit mode for the document A will be read first from the
objects of type XWiki.SheetClass in document A, then if none found, from
the objects in the included sheet.
2/ XWiki.SheetClass should be renamed to XWiki.EditModeClass, or
XWiki.DefaultEditModeClass, or something alike, that suggests its
purpose. Current class name will be deprecated but still preserved for a
good while. What would be your name proposals for this?
3/ optionally, we could deprecate the current mechanism, and say that
objects should never be attached to sheets anymore, only to pages. This
way, the usecase of a sheet should be implemented by adding the
EditModeClass object in the template from which docs are created, so
that it can be easily propagated to a set of documents.
I am not against the current mechanism, I think it's a nice helper, and
the replacing implementation has the drawback of making it mandatory to
create documents through templates, or manually adding this object in
the doc creation code. Therefore, I would be -0.5 on this.
WDYT?
4/ optionally, add an edit mode panel (or whatever we want to replace
them with) to change this from a nice UI. This can turn out useful in
cases when such an edit object is added automatically (e.g. dashboards)
and when it's no longer needed (dashboard macro call is deleted from the
page), the default edit mode still stays the one set automatically. This
is very optional, as I see little cases when users would delete just
the macro call, and not the page as a whole.
Thanks,
Anca
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+1 for the idea.
As a side note, I`d like it if we went even further with this and create
a "Page Preferences" section, just like we have for space and wiki,
where we could specify things like default edit mode or whatever wiki or
application specific stuff. These preferences would materialize in
objects being added to the current page.
WDYT? 
28 Mar
28 Mar
12:29 p.m.
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 23:49, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Indeed, I thought about this too but in the end I thought that it would be
better to have specific objects for each "preference" that is required
instead of a single large do-it-all preference object.
We can still have a "page preferences" view that refers all such objects
(the same way we have configurable prefs in the global wiki administration).
Guillaume
On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote:
I'm +1 with the overall proposal, sounds like a good improvement to me.
On 03/24/2011 07:28 PM, Luca Anca wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> starting from the need of the dashboards, to specify the default edit
> mode for a page, here's how I would like to implement it, in the
> following days.
>
> Context:
> There is already a mechanism for this, which works like this: if,
> document A includes sheet B and sheet B has an object of type
> "XWiki.SheetClass", then clicking the edit button of document A will
> automatically open the edit mode specified in the XWiki.SheetClass
> object of the sheet B.
>
> Proposal:
>
> 1/ I propose an enhancement of the existing mechanism, to allow such an
> XWiki.SheetClass object to be attached to the document A directly.
> Namely the edit mode for the document A will be read first from the
> objects of type XWiki.SheetClass in document A, then if none found, from
> the objects in the included sheet.
>
> 2/ XWiki.SheetClass should be renamed to XWiki.EditModeClass, or
> XWiki.DefaultEditModeClass, or something alike, that suggests its
> purpose. Current class name will be deprecated but still preserved for a
> good while. What would be your name proposals for this?
>
> 3/ optionally, we could deprecate the current mechanism, and say that
> objects should never be attached to sheets anymore, only to pages. This
> way, the usecase of a sheet should be implemented by adding the
> EditModeClass object in the template from which docs are created, so
> that it can be easily propagated to a set of documents.
> I am not against the current mechanism, I think it's a nice helper, and
> the replacing implementation has the drawback of making it mandatory to
> create documents through templates, or manually adding this object in
> the doc creation code. Therefore, I would be -0.5 on this.
> WDYT?
>
> 4/ optionally, add an edit mode panel (or whatever we want to replace
> them with) to change this from a nice UI. This can turn out useful in
> cases when such an edit object is added automatically (e.g. dashboards)
> and when it's no longer needed (dashboard macro call is deleted from the
> page), the default edit mode still stays the one set automatically. This
> is very optional, as I see little cases when users would delete just
> the macro call, and not the page as a whole.
>
> Thanks,
> Anca
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+1 for the idea.
As a side note, I`d like it if we went even further with this and create
a "Page Preferences" section, just like we have for space and wiki,
where we could specify things like default edit mode or whatever wiki or
application specific stuff. These preferences would materialize in
objects being added to the current page.
WDYT? -Vincent
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