16 Oct
2014
16 Oct
'14
5:01 p.m.
Hello,
At my opinion, It's a pity to come back at 2 click to access at space/page because
buttons are no longer split into two parts....
User must click twice to access at space (it is probably the most used case) for this
button.
But the the most annoying is: javascript with this merging buttons.
An current example: I click on Space button and Go to space but during the loading I made
a mistake and I would quickly access to page (or wiki) before the javascript loading: it
is impossible because I must waiting some seconds to click Backspace, waiting again and
then click on Page - Go to page.
On 6.2.1 there are not this problem: I could click on Space/Page button before JS
loading.
Of course, with top menu CSS we would no have this problem but bootstrap required JS,
then for my case, the quick issue is to modify template to come back at top menu
splitting. :-)
Pascal BASTIEN
16 Oct
16 Oct
6:14 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] My tiny noticed about the top menu (merging buttons again)...
It's a problem that we are changing things in the last minutes and we don't
have proper time to propose/test solutions.
The opinions are divided :) and are always welcomed in our try to offer the
best interface/experience.
Although we need to continue discussions about this functionality
(especially for the users that were accustomed with Colibri and have the
navigation expectation from the menu), a workaround is to use mouse's
'middle click' to navigate. I agree this is a functionality for advanced
users and is not discoverable, but can be an approach for advanced users
until we make a final change/decision.
Thanks,
Caty
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Pascal BASTIEN <pbasnews-xwiki(a)yahoo.fr>
wrote:
Hello,
At my opinion, It's a pity to come back at 2 click to access at space/page
because buttons are no longer split into two parts....
User must click twice to access at space (it is probably the most used
case) for this button.
But the the most annoying is: javascript with this merging buttons.
An current example: I click on Space button and Go to space but during the
loading I made a mistake and I would quickly access to page (or wiki)
before the javascript loading: it is impossible because I must waiting
some seconds to click Backspace, waiting again and then click on Page - Go
to page.
On 6.2.1 there are not this problem: I could click on Space/Page button
before JS loading.
Of course, with top menu CSS we would no have this problem but bootstrap
required JS, then for my case, the quick issue is to modify template to
come back at top menu splitting. :-)
Pascal BASTIEN
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8:28 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] My tiny noticed about the top menu (merging buttons again)...
I'm agree with you Kathy it is difficult to guess user habits or making more
confortable navigation.
IMO I think than a good navigation must be fast with a minimum click and loading time for
frequent use case.
To
answer Vincent, for me breadcrumb is more like a path to watch your
navigation and eventually come back. (it is less visualizable than top
menu)
Top menu with on click is more like 3 anchors (Wiki/space/page) / landmarks for quickly
access (is is big and simply reachable)
Perhaps I thinks too much like an informaticiens and not enough like a user.
I hope you understand that I don't critized Xwiki at all, I wanted simply give you my
opinion to help a better product ...
I know that you make your best :-) I'm happy with the "Add" button on the
top bar and all fixed issues ;-)
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De : Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>
À : Pascal BASTIEN <pbasnews-xwiki(a)yahoo.fr>fr>; XWiki Developers
<devs(a)xwiki.org>
Envoyé le : Jeudi 16 octobre 2014 18h14
Objet : Re: [xwiki-devs] My tiny noticed about the top menu (merging buttons again)...
It's a problem that we are changing things in the last minutes and we don't have
proper time to propose/test solutions.
The opinions are divided :) and are always welcomed in our try to offer the best
interface/experience.
Although we need to continue discussions about this functionality (especially for the
users that were accustomed with Colibri and have the navigation expectation from the
menu), a workaround is to use mouse's 'middle click' to navigate. I agree this
is a functionality for advanced users and is not discoverable, but can be an approach for
advanced users until we make a final change/decision.
Thanks,
Caty
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Pascal BASTIEN <pbasnews-xwiki(a)yahoo.fr> wrote:
Hello,
At my opinion, It's a pity to come back at 2 click to access at space/page because
buttons are no longer split into two parts....
User must click twice to access at space (it is probably the most used case) for this
button.
But the the most annoying is: javascript with this merging buttons.
An current example: I click on Space button and Go to space but during the loading I made
a mistake and I would quickly access to page (or wiki) before the javascript loading: it
is impossible because I must waiting some seconds to click Backspace, waiting again and
then click on Page - Go to page.
On 6.2.1 there are not this problem: I could click on Space/Page button before JS
loading.
Of course, with top menu CSS we would no have this problem but bootstrap required JS,
then for my case, the quick issue is to modify template to come back at top menu
splitting. :-)
Pascal BASTIEN
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