[xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Automatically add scope attribute in generated table header cells in XHTML renderer
25 May
2010
25 May
'10
2:31 p.m.
Hi dev,
For Dutch Web Guidelines validity a <th> have to contains scope
attribute (scope="col" or scope="row") which means that default wiki
tables are invalid currently.
See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#non-visual-rendering
for example of scope attribute use.
I propose to modify XHTML renderer table header cell to do the following:
* if a scope is explicitly provided reuse it
* if there is no scope:
** if first line or not first column: <th scope="col">
** if not first line and first column: <th scope="row">
I thing that covers most of the use cases and it will avoid having to
set explicitly scope attribute in all our standard pages.
WDYT ?
--
Thomas Mortagne
25 May
25 May
3:08 p.m.
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On 05/25/2010 02:31 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Hi dev,
For Dutch Web Guidelines validity a<th> have to contains scope
attribute (scope="col" or scope="row") which means that default wiki
tables are invalid currently.
See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#non-visual-rendering
for example of scope attribute use.
I propose to modify XHTML renderer table header cell to do the following:
* if a scope is explicitly provided reuse it
* if there is no scope:
** if first line or not first column:<th scope="col">
** if not first line and first column:<th scope="row">
I thing that covers most of the use cases and it will avoid having to
set explicitly scope attribute in all our standard pages.
WDYT ?
Big +1.
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Sergiu Dumitriu
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3:09 p.m.
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Considering the examples I think implementing this behavior would be good.
+1.
JV.
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi dev,
For Dutch Web Guidelines validity a <th> have to contains scope
attribute (scope="col" or scope="row") which means that default wiki
tables are invalid currently.
See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#non-visual-rendering
for example of scope attribute use.
I propose to modify XHTML renderer table header cell to do the following:
* if a scope is explicitly provided reuse it
* if there is no scope:
** if first line or not first column: <th scope="col">
** if not first line and first column: <th scope="row">
I thing that covers most of the use cases and it will avoid having to
set explicitly scope attribute in all our standard pages.
WDYT ?
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3:13 p.m.
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On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 14:31, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
Hi dev,
For Dutch Web Guidelines validity a <th> have to contains scope
attribute (scope="col" or scope="row") which means that default wiki
tables are invalid currently.
See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#non-visual-rendering
for example of scope attribute use.
I propose to modify XHTML renderer table header cell to do the following:
* if a scope is explicitly provided reuse it
* if there is no scope:
** if first line or not first column: <th scope="col">
** if not first line and first column: <th scope="row">
Checking that there is more cells next to the th would be nice as well. It
happens that you use a th covering a whole row (colspan) to split the table
somehow with header. WDYT ?
I thing that covers most of the use cases and it will avoid having to
set explicitly scope attribute in all our standard
pages.
I hope so as well, but this could also produce wrong information...
so I am +0
Denis
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3:26 p.m.
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On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 15:13, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 14:31, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
DWG just fail if any <th> does not have scope attribute.
Hi dev,
For Dutch Web Guidelines validity a <th> have to contains scope
attribute (scope="col" or scope="row") which means that default wiki
tables are invalid currently.
See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#non-visual-rendering
for example of scope attribute use.
I propose to modify XHTML renderer table header cell to do the following:
* if a scope is explicitly provided reuse it
* if there is no scope:
** if first line or not first column: <th scope="col">
** if not first line and first column: <th scope="row">
Checking that there is more cells next to the th would be nice as well. It
happens that you use a th covering a whole row (colspan) to split the table
somehow with header. WDYT ?
I thing that covers most of the use cases and it will avoid having to
I think other use cases are advanced enough for the user to be able to
set proper explicit scope attribute where needed.
set explicitly scope attribute in all our
standard pages.
I hope so as well, but this could also produce wrong information...
so I am +0
Denis
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3:35 p.m.
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On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 15:26, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
Well, from our private discussion, this attribute is just insufficiant to
properly describe real scope.
so +1 finally.
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SOFTEC sa - CEO
eGuilde sarl - CTO
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 15:13, Denis Gervalle
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
It
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 14:31, Thomas Mortagne
<
thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>wroteote:
> Hi dev,
>
> For Dutch Web Guidelines validity a <th> have to contains scope
> attribute (scope="col" or scope="row") which means that default
wiki
> tables are invalid currently.
>
> See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#non-visual-rendering
> for example of scope attribute use.
>
> I propose to modify XHTML renderer table header cell to do the
following:
* if a
scope is explicitly provided reuse it
* if there is no scope:
** if first line or not first column: <th scope="col">
** if not first line and first column: <th scope="row">
Checking that there is more cells next to the th would be nice as well. happens that you use a th covering a whole row
(colspan) to split the
table
somehow with header. WDYT ?
DWG just fail if any <th> does not have scope attribute.
I thing that covers most of the use cases and it will avoid having to
I think other use cases are advanced enough for the user to be able to
set proper explicit scope attribute where needed.
set explicitly scope attribute in all our
standard pages.
I hope so as well, but this could also produce wrong information...
so I am +0
Denis
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SOFTEC sa - CEO
eGuilde sarl - CTO
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3:17 p.m.
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On May 25, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Hi dev,
For Dutch Web Guidelines validity a <th> have to contains scope
attribute (scope="col" or scope="row") which means that default wiki
tables are invalid currently.
stupid question: why didn't we see this before?
See
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#non-visual-rendering
for example of scope attribute use.
I propose to modify XHTML renderer table header cell to do the following:
* if a scope is explicitly provided reuse it
What are the cases where the generated scope is invalid and would require the user to
override it?
* if there is no scope:
** if first line or not first column: <th scope="col">
** if not first line and first column: <th scope="row">
I thing that covers most of the use cases and it will avoid having to
set explicitly scope attribute in all our standard pages.
WDYT ?
+1 in general. You say "most of the use cases". What use cases are not covered?
Thanks
-Vincent
3:29 p.m.
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On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 15:17, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
I don't really though about it, there is always other use cases ;)
On May 25, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
For example if you want a scope=row in the cell 0:0 because column
headers has "priority" over row in your use case.
Hi dev,
For Dutch Web Guidelines validity a <th> have to contains scope
attribute (scope="col" or scope="row") which means that default wiki
tables are invalid currently.
stupid question: why didn't we see this before?
See
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#non-visual-rendering
for example of scope attribute use.
I propose to modify XHTML renderer table header cell to do the following:
* if a scope is explicitly provided reuse it
What are the cases where the generated scope is invalid and would require the user to
override it? * if there is no scope:
** if first line or not first column: <th scope="col">
** if not first line and first column: <th scope="row">
I thing that covers most of the use cases and it will avoid having to
set explicitly scope attribute in all our standard pages.
WDYT ?
+1 in general. You say "most of the use cases". What use cases are not covered?
Thanks
-Vincent
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3:41 p.m.
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+1,
Jerome.
----- "Thomas Mortagne" <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi dev,
For Dutch Web Guidelines validity a <th> have to contains scope
attribute (scope="col" or scope="row") which means that default wiki
tables are invalid currently.
See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#non-visual-rendering
for example of scope attribute use.
I propose to modify XHTML renderer table header cell to do the
following:
* if a scope is explicitly provided reuse it
* if there is no scope:
** if first line or not first column: <th scope="col">
** if not first line and first column: <th scope="row">
I thing that covers most of the use cases and it will avoid having to
set explicitly scope attribute in all our standard pages.
WDYT ?
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Thomas Mortagne
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3:55 p.m.
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+1
Thanks,
Marius
On 05/25/2010 03:31 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Hi dev,
For Dutch Web Guidelines validity a<th> have to contains scope
attribute (scope="col" or scope="row") which means that default wiki
tables are invalid currently.
See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#non-visual-rendering
for example of scope attribute use.
I propose to modify XHTML renderer table header cell to do the following:
* if a scope is explicitly provided reuse it
* if there is no scope:
** if first line or not first column:<th scope="col">
** if not first line and first column:<th scope="row">
I thing that covers most of the use cases and it will avoid having to
set explicitly scope attribute in all our standard pages.
WDYT ?
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