On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 21:11, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote: FYI it means wiki:space.page^property > > Note that I'm inly talking about class property and not class since > class reference is exactly the same thing as document reference I > don't think we really need to have a specific one.

> WDYT ?

On May 30, 2011, at 9:57 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: I don't think we should limit ourselves (I don't see any reason, do you see one?). BTW the new model I started has the ability to have several classes per document.

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On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 08:45, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote: We could allow anything, even empty classname and just not taking it into account but wiki:space.page^.property looks like to a user who

knows there is no such thing as class in the current implementation. And still what do we get as class name when asking a PropertyClass reference ? -- Thomas Mortagne

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 00:29, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote: I agree that we should not limit ourselves, but I really do not see the limit here. What would be the advantage of having several class defined in the same document ? Denis -- Denis Gervalle SOFTEC sa - CEO eGuilde sarl - CTO _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

Here is a "new" proposal: * introduce now class property references with "wiki:space.page^property" in which we escape "^" and "." when serializing the "property" * that way if later we really need to have several classes by document (which does not actually bring anything I agree with Denis) we support wiki:space.page^property as a shortcut of wiki:space.page^firstclass.property. It would be a first but it's not hard to do technically. If we don't for sure we can always remove the "." escaping which is just a useless escaping which is supported properly by reference parser and otherwise we don't really break the syntax by adding the classname part to the reference since the separator is already protected. WDYT ?

I really need to move on on this and I'm -1 to introduce right now a wiki:space.page^classname.property syntax where you never know what to put as classname. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 14:24, Denis Gervalle<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 00:29, Vincent Massol<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote: > >> >> On May 30, 2011, at 9:57 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: >> >>> On 05/30/2011 09:25 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: >>>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 21:11, Thomas Mortagne >>>> <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi dev, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to introduce class property entity type and related >>>>> reference and syntax separator. >>>>> >>>>> For the separator syntax I propose to use the same thing as object >>>>> separator since you can't have both in the same reference and it's >>>>> always a pain to find a new separator. >>>> >>>> FYI it means wiki:space.page^property >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Note that I'm inly talking about class property and not class since >>>>> class reference is exactly the same thing as document reference I >>>>> don't think we really need to have a specific one. >>> >>> Currently there can be only one class in a document, but for a while the >>> question whether this is going to be valid in the future as well has >>> been floating around. >>> >>> So, a prerequisite vote is: >>> >>> In the new model, can a document contain more than one class? >> >> I don't think we should limit ourselves (I don't see any reason, do you see >> one?). BTW the new model I started has the ability to have several classes >> per document. >> > > I agree that we should not limit ourselves, but I really do not see the > limit here. What would be the advantage of having several class defined in > the same document ? > > Denis > > >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> One thing I believe we're definitely going to need is a special data >>> structure to explicitly represent XClasses, holding XClass metadata such >>> as "is the class supposed to be stand-alone, one instance per document, >>> like BlogPosts, or is it an aggregated class, with several instances >>> attached to a document, like the Comments"; "what is the sheet used to >>> display the object in view mode"; "what is the parent class (if we want >>> to do inheritance)". With this meta-class in place, we could, in theory, >>> have two meta-classes in a document, with each class property mapped to >>> one of the meta-classes. >>> >>>>> WDYT ? >>> >>> +1, if we decide that we only want at most one class per document.

Here is a "new" proposal: * introduce now class property references with "wiki:space.page^property" in which we escape "^" and "." when serializing the "property" * that way if later we really need to have several classes by document (which does not actually bring anything I agree with Denis)

we support wiki:space.page^property as a shortcut of wiki:space.page^firstclass.property. It would be a first but it's not hard to do technically.

If we don't for sure we can always remove the "." escaping which is just a useless escaping which is supported properly by reference parser and otherwise we don't really break the syntax by adding the classname part to the reference since the separator is already protected. WDYT ? I really need to move on on this and I'm -1 to introduce right now a wiki:space.page^classname.property syntax where you never know what to put as classname. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 14:24, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote: -- Thomas Mortagne _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs