9 Oct
2007
9 Oct
'07
5:18 p.m.
After seeing XE-14 [1] I've made a quick evaluation of what
Admin.WebHome contains, available here :
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/RefactoringAdminWebHome
My suggestion is at the end of the document, I suggest to remove the
link to this page in the quicklinks panel and replace its content by a
small description since it would be useless after some minor additions
in the top menu.
WDYT ?
JV.
[1] : http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XE-14
9 Oct
9 Oct
9:28 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Nearly remove XWiki.WebHome
Hi JV and everyone,
On Oct 9, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
After seeing XE-14 [1] I've made a quick
evaluation of what
Admin.WebHome contains, available here :
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/RefactoringAdminWebHome
My suggestion is at the end of the document, I suggest to remove the
link to this page in the quicklinks panel and replace its content by a
small description since it would be useless after some minor additions
in the top menu.
WDYT ?
1) I think we need a control panel (a la windows for example). When
the user clicks on the "Administration" link in the top right corner
of the screen it goes to a page with a nice control panel (i.e. nice
icons). This Panel would replace the current Administration view with
tabs. Clicking on a control panel item will go to a special page
about that item.
2) I think we need everything that's about Admin in this control
panel, including Blogs, Photo Album, etc.
3) In the future the control panel would offer extension points for
apps to contribute items to it but right now we should hardcode items
for Blogs, Photo Album, etc. It's easy to know which ones to include
since this is inside XE and we control the default apps bundled in XE.
4) It would be great to get Laurent Lunati's help to design this
control panel.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
10:37 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Nearly remove XWiki.WebHome
1) I think we need a control panel (a la windows for
example). When
the user clicks on the "Administration" link in the top right corner
of the screen it goes to a page with a nice control panel (i.e. nice
icons). This Panel would replace the current Administration view with
tabs. Clicking on a control panel item will go to a special page
about that item.
A control panel a la windows (and many apps & webapps) would be nice,
it's by far the most practical choice when applications can add items
into the general settings (where tabbed layouts can become a mess).
Just to clarify one point : I'm sure everyone agree to keep the core
administration within templates, accessible by the admin action.
Now it begs the question of the reusability of the wiki administration
templates for spaces administration.. 2 options from my POV :
1) Lighten a lot the preferences accessible from UI for spaces
(default language, parent, skin settings, default editor. for example)
and make their administration really different from the wiki one.
2) Have spaces control panels accessible from the main control panel
Obviously my choice goes to 1) :)
BTW I guess all this is Future and not 1.2M2, I'll create the design
entry for the record.
2) I think we need everything that's about Admin
in this control
panel, including Blogs, Photo Album, etc.
3) In the future the control panel would offer extension points for
apps to contribute items to it but right now we should hardcode items
for Blogs, Photo Album, etc. It's easy to know which ones to include
since this is inside XE and we control the default apps bundled in XE.
4) It would be great to get Laurent Lunati's help to design this
control panel.
+1.
JV.
10 Oct
10 Oct
12:02 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Nearly remove XWiki.WebHome
On 10/9/07, Jean-Vincent Drean <jv(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
I would also very much prefer lighter preferences *in general*.. i.e.
break out the big xwiki preferences humungo thing into smaller bits
that can be disabled.. like registration. What if I don't want to
allow registration? It would be nice to set a value in xwiki.cfg, and
have all that registration stuff just disappear. Actually, the "Ad"
stuff is the real bother, I don't use ads. I'd rather not have to even
see them in the config panels.
Maybe from the main xwiki config panel, enable/disable things like
ads, blogs, photo album, etc. and if they're disabled, then ...
And what do you need to admin for the photo album anyway? Or blog, for
that matter.. it seems like this is mostly to get at the ClassSheet
and ClassTempate... it seems like a more generic mechanism would be
better, like just linking to XWikiClasses...
--
'Waste of a good apple' -Samwise Gamgee
1) I think we
need a control panel (a la windows for example). When
the user clicks on the "Administration" link in the top right corner
of the screen it goes to a page with a nice control panel (i.e. nice
icons). This Panel would replace the current Administration view with
tabs. Clicking on a control panel item will go to a special page
about that item.
A control panel a la windows (and many apps & webapps) would be nice,
it's by far the most practical choice when applications can add items
into the general settings (where tabbed layouts can become a mess).
Just to clarify one point : I'm sure everyone agree to keep the core
administration within templates, accessible by the admin action.
Now it begs the question of the reusability of the wiki administration
templates for spaces administration.. 2 options from my POV :
1) Lighten a lot the preferences accessible from UI for spaces
(default language, parent, skin settings, default editor. for example)
and make their administration really different from the wiki one.
2) Have spaces control panels accessible from the main control panel
Obviously my choice goes to 1) :)
12:35 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Nearly remove XWiki.WebHome
2007/10/10, Erin Schnabel <ebullient.rain(a)gmail.com>om>:
I would also very much prefer lighter preferences *in
general*.. i.e.
break out the big xwiki preferences humungo thing into smaller bits
that can be disabled.. like registration. What if I don't want to
allow registration? It would be nice to set a value in xwiki.cfg, and
have all that registration stuff just disappear. Actually, the "Ad"
stuff is the real bother, I don't use ads. I'd rather not have to even
see them in the config panels.
Point taken for the ability to hide admin categories from the UI (in
xwiki.cfg for example).
Maybe from the main xwiki config panel, enable/disable
things like
ads, blogs, photo album, etc. and if they're disabled, then ...
AFAIK the mid-term idea is to package the default xwiki wiki without
those apps (and let the admin add them later if desired).
And what do you need to admin for the photo album
anyway? Or blog, for
that matter.. it seems like this is mostly to get at the ClassSheet
and ClassTempate... it seems like a more generic mechanism would be
better, like just linking to XWikiClasses...
Yep, FTM the links we have in XWiki.WebHome are a bit useless _but_
about your examples (mid/long-term again):
- blog : categories, captcha yes/no, etc
- photo album : nb of pics per page per example.
JV.
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