On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 21:55, Anca Luca <ancapaula.luca(a)xwiki.com> wrote: +1, i would prefer we stay away of velocity keywords +0.5, ; look weird to me (no better argument) -1, too hard to read for user and know what is wiki name, object etc. another proposal: E wiki:Space.Page^objectName^property And you ? ;) Object and Object Property are standard entity and should be supported by default anyway. If you implement it with some separators in annotation and separator chosen for standard are not the same it will be a pain to get rid of your custom code in annotation. -- Thomas Mortagne

Hi devs, I would so much like to commit XWIKI-4775, at least in 2.3. So, we for the separators, so far we have: 1/ wiki:Space.Page^objectName#property 1 +1 (I recorded Vincent here), 1 -0.5, 1 -1 2/ wiki:Space.Page:objectName.property 1 -1, 1 +1 3/ wiki:Space.Page^objectName;property 1 +0.5, my +1 which I will change now 4/ wiki:Space.Page^objectName.property 2 +1 5/ wiki:Space.Page^objectName^property 1 +1 My +1 goes for 4/ which I will commit soon if nobody has anything against it. Re-explanation of the thing: As a result of the discussion at http://markmail.org/thread/uj34lvnjgrnlf6vm and some other live discussion, we concluded that we would implement the objects and object properties references _as if_ every entity had a free name (unique, human readable string name to identify it among all other entities of the same type in the same context). However, for the moment we don't have a good approach for how _exactly_ to name objects, so we won't implement a specific way to name them, we'd have the support for generic object references but not the names themselves, which would be the responsibility of the application _actually_ using the object references (none in core, ftm, only annotations on sandbox). To get a flavour about how this would happen at this point, take a look at the way IndexedObjectReference [1] in the annotation references module extends the ObjectReference[2] in the patched model, to implement a specific way of naming. Now, in order to actually commit XWIKI-4775, the support for generic object references (with unspecified name), we need to agree on a separator, which would be harder to change afterwards, when we decide on the actual name. [1] http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib/sandbox/xwiki-annotation-parent/… [2] http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib/sandbox/xwiki-annotation-parent/… Thanks a lot for the help, Anca On 01/25/2010 10:55 PM, Anca Luca wrote: