27 Apr
2017
27 Apr
'17
11:27 a.m.
Hi devs,
I think we’ve reached the point when we need 2 IRC channels:
* one for users and devs discussions (“xwiki”)
* one for notifications (“xwiki-notifications”)
There are too many notifications right now to be able to have unobstructed conversations
on IRC.
Note that ideally this will require modifying the IRCBot application so that some Botlets
are on the main “xwiki” channel (like the the jira botlet that gives the full URL of a
jira issue) and the others on the “xwiki-notifications” channel. However, FTM I’m
proposing to configure the IRCBot to use the xwiki-notifications channel exclusively.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
27 Apr
27 Apr
11:36 a.m.
I like the bot since it gives useful information on the commits, issues,
etc.
Still I agree that when doing a release or even when trying to work on
design wiki I always feel guilty that I'm disturbing people.
Now if we create this separate channel, we need to document it, on the IRC
page on xwiki.org and even/maybe in the #xwiki channel title/description.
I'm +1 for the moving of the Bot.
Thanks,
Caty
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
I think we’ve reached the point when we need 2 IRC channels:
* one for users and devs discussions (“xwiki”)
* one for notifications (“xwiki-notifications”)
There are too many notifications right now to be able to have unobstructed
conversations on IRC.
Note that ideally this will require modifying the IRCBot application so
that some Botlets are on the main “xwiki” channel (like the the jira botlet
that gives the full URL of a jira issue) and the others on the
“xwiki-notifications” channel. However, FTM I’m proposing to configure the
IRCBot to use the xwiki-notifications channel exclusively.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
11:45 a.m.
+1
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I like the bot since it gives useful information on
the commits, issues,
etc.
Still I agree that when doing a release or even when trying to work on
design wiki I always feel guilty that I'm disturbing people.
Now if we create this separate channel, we need to document it, on the IRC
page on xwiki.org and even/maybe in the #xwiki channel title/description.
I'm +1 for the moving of the Bot.
Thanks,
Caty
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> I think we’ve reached the point when we need 2 IRC channels:
> * one for users and devs discussions (“xwiki”)
> * one for notifications (“xwiki-notifications”)
>
> There are too many notifications right now to be able to have unobstructed
> conversations on IRC.
>
> Note that ideally this will require modifying the IRCBot application so
> that some Botlets are on the main “xwiki” channel (like the the jira botlet
> that gives the full URL of a jira issue) and the others on the
> “xwiki-notifications” channel. However, FTM I’m proposing to configure the
> IRCBot to use the xwiki-notifications channel exclusively.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>
--
Thomas Mortagne
8 May
8 May
4:54 p.m.
+1
Thanks,
Marius
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
I think we’ve reached the point when we need 2 IRC channels:
* one for users and devs discussions (“xwiki”)
* one for notifications (“xwiki-notifications”)
There are too many notifications right now to be able to have unobstructed
conversations on IRC.
Note that ideally this will require modifying the IRCBot application so
that some Botlets are on the main “xwiki” channel (like the the jira botlet
that gives the full URL of a jira issue) and the others on the
“xwiki-notifications” channel. However, FTM I’m proposing to configure the
IRCBot to use the xwiki-notifications channel exclusively.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
9 May
9 May
6:42 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Create a separate IRC channel for notifications
Ok I’ve implemented it today.
I’ve also updated http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Chat
Thanks
-Vincent
On 27 Apr 2017, at 11:27, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
I think we’ve reached the point when we need 2 IRC channels:
* one for users and devs discussions (“xwiki”)
* one for notifications (“xwiki-notifications”)
There are too many notifications right now to be able to have unobstructed conversations
on IRC.
Note that ideally this will require modifying the IRCBot application so that some Botlets
are on the main “xwiki” channel (like the the jira botlet that gives the full URL of a
jira issue) and the others on the “xwiki-notifications” channel. However, FTM I’m
proposing to configure the IRCBot to use the xwiki-notifications channel exclusively.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
10 May
10 May
10:28 a.m.
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Ok I’ve implemented it today.
I’ve also updated http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Chat
Great!
Thanks,
Caty
Thanks
-Vincent
On 27 Apr 2017, at 11:27, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
I think we’ve reached the point when we need 2 IRC channels:
* one for users and devs discussions (“xwiki”)
* one for notifications (“xwiki-notifications”)
There are too many notifications right now to be able to have
unobstructed
conversations on IRC.
Note that ideally this will require modifying the IRCBot application so
that some
Botlets are on the main “xwiki” channel (like the the jira botlet
that gives the full URL of a jira issue) and the others on the
“xwiki-notifications” channel. However, FTM I’m proposing to configure the
IRCBot to use the xwiki-notifications channel exclusively.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
12 May
12 May
9:40 a.m.
Hello !
On 05/09/2017 06:42 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Ok I’ve implemented it today.
I’ve also updated http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Chat
Thanks
-Vincent
It seems that now, the history of the #xwiki IRC channel isn’t logged
anymore (see :
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/IRC/#|t=ircarchives&p=1&l=10&am…)Date&d=desc).
I know that the migration of the IRCBot from #xwiki to
#xwiki-notifications should be made progressively (as said in
http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Proposal-Create-a-separate-IRC-channel-fo…),
but we’re actually losing the history of our conversations on #xwiki. Is
this really something we want?
Thanks,
--
Clément Aubin
Web Developer Intern @XWiki SAS
clement.aubin(a)xwiki.com
More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
9:45 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Create a separate IRC channel for notifications
Hi Clement,
On 12 May 2017, at 09:40, Clément Aubin
<clement.aubin(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello !
On 05/09/2017 06:42 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
You’re absolutely right… that’s an issue I had forgotten about :(
I’ve moved the bot to xwiki-notifications but by doing so I’ve also moved the log
archiving since it was done by that bot.
So this means some work to make this possible. I’ll need to look at the Bot code to see
what’s the simplest for this (either allow the ircbot app to connect to several channels
or allow the ircbot app to be installed in different spaces and run 2 bots).
Thanks for raising this problem!
-Vincent
Ok I’ve implemented it today.
I’ve also updated http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Chat
Thanks
-Vincent
It seems that now, the history of the #xwiki IRC channel isn’t logged
anymore (see :
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/IRC/#|t=ircarchives&p=1&l=10&am…)Date&d=desc).
I know that the migration of the IRCBot from #xwiki to
#xwiki-notifications should be made progressively (as said in
http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Proposal-Create-a-separate-IRC-channel-fo…),
but we’re actually losing the history of our conversations on #xwiki. Is
this really something we want?
Thanks,
--
Clément Aubin
Web Developer Intern @XWiki SAS
clement.aubin(a)xwiki.com
More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
12:29 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Create a separate IRC channel for notifications
On 12 May 2017, at 09:45, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi Clement,
I’ve been looking at the ircbot app code and I think what needs to be done is the
following:
* Make it support several bots instead of one. Instead of "@Inject private IRCBot
bot”, use “@Inject private MultiBotManager multiBotManager” + change APIs
* Allow having several Bot config xobjects (one per bot) on the ircbot config page (ie.
IRC.IRCConfiguration)
* Internally use the PircBotX MultiBotManager
(http://thelq.github.io/pircbotx/latest/apidocs/org/pircbotx/MultiBotManager…)
* Add a new config data for IRCBotListener which corresponds to the ids of the Bots for
which the listener must be active. So both on the Java side and for the
IRC.IRCBotListenerClas xclass.
* For the moment start/stop all bots together.
This is not trivial (probably requires 1 day of work total) but I don’t see any other
option right now if we wish to continue to split the bot into 2.
Unless someone has a better idea, I’ll try to go for this in the coming days.
Thanks
-Vincent
On 12 May 2017, at 09:40, Clément Aubin
<clement.aubin(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello !
On 05/09/2017 06:42 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
You’re absolutely right… that’s an issue I had forgotten about :(
I’ve moved the bot to xwiki-notifications but by doing so I’ve also moved the log
archiving since it was done by that bot.
So this means some work to make this possible. I’ll need to look at the Bot code to see
what’s the simplest for this (either allow the ircbot app to connect to several channels
or allow the ircbot app to be installed in different spaces and run 2 bots). Ok I’ve implemented it today.
I’ve also updated http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Chat
Thanks
-Vincent
It seems that now, the history of the #xwiki IRC channel isn’t logged
anymore (see :
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/IRC/#|t=ircarchives&p=1&l=10&am…)Date&d=desc).
Thanks for raising this problem!
-Vincent
>
> I know that the migration of the IRCBot from #xwiki to
> #xwiki-notifications should be made progressively (as said in
>
http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Proposal-Create-a-separate-IRC-channel-fo…),
> but we’re actually losing the history of our conversations on #xwiki. Is
> this really something we want?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Clément Aubin
> Web Developer Intern @XWiki SAS
> clement.aubin(a)xwiki.com
> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
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