4 May
2009
4 May
'09
11:29 a.m.
Hi devs,
In 2.0 architecture we have no way currently to print a strongly
formatted text (like JSON) or simply a plain text without XHTML which
we are doing generally using xpage=plain in XWiki 1.0
I propose to use the plain text renderer when xpage=plain and document is 2.0.
The difference between the two is that in xwiki 1.0, wiki syntax
generates xhtml when plain text renderer don't. But it's just because
XWiki 1.0 does not ave the concept of different renders and the main
goal of xpage=plain is JSON and things like that so this difference is
not important IMO.
Note that this is about supporting XWiki 1.0 "api", we need a generic
way to indicate the renderer to use in the URL but that's another
subject. For now we have to make xpage=plain works for both 1.0 and
2.0 content.
WDYT ?
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Thomas Mortagne
4 May
4 May
11:52 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [PROPOSAL] Use plain text renderer with ?xpage=plain
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:29, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
In 2.0 architecture we have no way currently to print a strongly
formatted text (like JSON) or simply a plain text without XHTML which
we are doing generally using xpage=plain in XWiki 1.0
See http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-3413 for the jira issue
I propose to use the plain text renderer when xpage=plain and document is 2.0.
The difference between the two is that in xwiki 1.0, wiki syntax
generates xhtml when plain text renderer don't. But it's just because
XWiki 1.0 does not ave the concept of different renders and the main
goal of xpage=plain is JSON and things like that so this difference is
not important IMO.
Note that this is about supporting XWiki 1.0 "api", we need a generic
way to indicate the renderer to use in the URL but that's another
subject. For now we have to make xpage=plain works for both 1.0 and
2.0 content.
WDYT ?
--
Thomas Mortagne
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Thomas Mortagne
12:41 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [PROPOSAL] Use plain text renderer with ?xpage=plain
I'm not very for this. I think we should keep xpage=plain for delivering
HTML without the header and footer. It currently is delivering HTML by
default unless you change the content type in your script.
We could use a new template with could be "text" and would use the text
content type.
Ludovic
Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:29, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
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Hi devs,
In 2.0 architecture we have no way currently to print a strongly
formatted text (like JSON) or simply a plain text without XHTML which
we are doing generally using xpage=plain in XWiki 1.0
See http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-3413 for the jira issue
I propose to use the plain text renderer when
xpage=plain and document is 2.0.
The difference between the two is that in xwiki 1.0, wiki syntax
generates xhtml when plain text renderer don't. But it's just because
XWiki 1.0 does not ave the concept of different renders and the main
goal of xpage=plain is JSON and things like that so this difference is
not important IMO.
Note that this is about supporting XWiki 1.0 "api", we need a generic
way to indicate the renderer to use in the URL but that's another
subject. For now we have to make xpage=plain works for both 1.0 and
2.0 content.
WDYT ?
--
Thomas Mortagne
12:46 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [PROPOSAL] Use plain text renderer with ?xpage=plain
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
In 2.0 architecture we have no way currently to print a strongly
formatted text (like JSON) or simply a plain text without XHTML which
we are doing generally using xpage=plain in XWiki 1.0
With the 1.0 syntax xpage=plain was mainly used to:
1/ Output data in special format (JSON, xls, etc). In those cases
{pre} was used to avoid xhtml transformations.
2/ Output xhtml content without the XWiki UI, I can think of one use
case where this content was put in ajax tooltips.
Is 2/ covered ? Do we need a xpage=xhtml for it ?
Note that xpage=xpart&vm=contentview.vm can be used as a workaround.
Thanks,
JV.
1:15 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [PROPOSAL] Use plain text renderer with ?xpage=plain
On May 4, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
If you we want to have something clean for the future it seems to me
that having a parameter called outputType (or simply output, or type,
or contentType) which can take all renderer values would be best.
For ex outputType=xhtml, xwiki, text, pdf, rtf, etc
And when not specified it would default to outputType=xhtml.
For removing the UI I'd use another parameter since it's orthogonal.
Something like showUI=true|false
Thanks
-Vincent
Hi devs,
In 2.0 architecture we have no way currently to print a strongly
formatted text (like JSON) or simply a plain text without XHTML which
we are doing generally using xpage=plain in XWiki 1.0
With the 1.0 syntax xpage=plain was mainly used to:
1/ Output data in special format (JSON, xls, etc). In those cases
{pre} was used to avoid xhtml transformations.
2/ Output xhtml content without the XWiki UI, I can think of one use
case where this content was put in ajax tooltips.
Is 2/ covered ? Do we need a xpage=xhtml for it ?
Note that xpage=xpart&vm=contentview.vm can be used as a workaround.
1:25 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [PROPOSAL] Use plain text renderer with ?xpage=plain
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 13:15, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On May 4, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
As i said this mail is about finding what to do with xpage=plain and
not find the way to call the plain text renderer. I just want to know
if we try to be able to use xpage=plain with 2.0 content or if we
don't do anything an say that you have to do this another way for 2.0.
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
If you we want to have something clean for the future it seems to me
that having a parameter called outputType (or simply output, or type,
or contentType) which can take all renderer values would be best.
For ex outputType=xhtml, xwiki, text, pdf, rtf, etc
And when not specified it would default to outputType=xhtml.
For removing the UI I'd use another parameter since it's orthogonal.
Something like showUI=true|false Hi devs,
In 2.0 architecture we have no way currently to print a strongly
formatted text (like JSON) or simply a plain text without XHTML which
we are doing generally using xpage=plain in XWiki 1.0
With the 1.0 syntax xpage=plain was mainly used to:
1/ Output data in special format (JSON, xls, etc). In those cases
{pre} was used to avoid xhtml transformations.
2/ Output xhtml content without the XWiki UI, I can think of one use
case where this content was put in ajax tooltips.
Is 2/ covered ? Do we need a xpage=xhtml for it ?
Note that xpage=xpart&vm=contentview.vm can be used as a workaround.
Thanks
-Vincent
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1:49 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [PROPOSAL] Use plain text renderer with ?xpage=plain
Thomas Mortagne wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 13:15, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
I think it's better to do it another way in 2.0 and keep xpage=plain
compatible, so that pages that are called with this parameter (from AJAX
requests for example) can be converted and keep offering their service.
If we use a plain text renderer, it will break functionalities if/when
converting to 2.0 (for example UI displayed in lightboxes, ajax
updaters, etc)
Jerome.
On May 4, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean
wrote:
As i said this mail is about finding what to do with xpage=plain and
not find the way to call the plain text renderer. I just want to know
if we try to be able to use xpage=plain with 2.0 content or if we
don't do anything an say that you have to do this another way for 2.0. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
If you we
want to have something clean for the future it seems to me
that having a parameter called outputType (or simply output, or type,
or contentType) which can take all renderer values would be best.
For ex outputType=xhtml, xwiki, text, pdf, rtf, etc
And when not specified it would default to outputType=xhtml.
For removing the UI I'd use another parameter since it's orthogonal.
Something like showUI=true|false Hi devs,
In 2.0 architecture we have no way currently to print a strongly
formatted text (like JSON) or simply a plain text without XHTML which
we are doing generally using xpage=plain in XWiki 1.0
With the 1.0 syntax
xpage=plain was mainly used to:
1/ Output data in special format (JSON, xls, etc). In those cases
{pre} was used to avoid xhtml transformations.
2/ Output xhtml content without the XWiki UI, I can think of one use
case where this content was put in ajax tooltips.
Is 2/ covered ? Do we need a xpage=xhtml for it ?
Note that xpage=xpart&vm=contentview.vm can be used as a workaround. Thanks
-Vincent
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On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 13:49, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Thomas Mortagne wrote:
I breaks anyway, if you use plain text renderer it breaks lightboxes
and if it use xhtml renderer it break JSON...
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 13:15, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
I think it's better to do it another way in 2.0 and keep xpage=plain
compatible, so that pages that are called with this parameter (from AJAX
requests for example) can be converted and keep offering their service.
If we use a plain text renderer, it will break functionalities if/when
converting to 2.0 (for example UI displayed in lightboxes, ajax
updaters, etc) On May 4, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean
wrote:
As i said this mail is about finding what to do with xpage=plain and
not find the way to call the plain text renderer. I just want to know
if we try to be able to use xpage=plain with 2.0 content or if we
don't do anything an say that you have to do this another way for 2.0. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> In 2.0 architecture we have no way currently to print a strongly
> formatted text (like JSON) or simply a plain text without XHTML which
> we are doing generally using xpage=plain in XWiki 1.0
With the 1.0 syntax xpage=plain was mainly used to:
1/ Output data in special format (JSON, xls, etc). In those cases
{pre} was used to avoid xhtml transformations.
2/ Output xhtml content without the XWiki UI, I can think of one use
case where this content was put in ajax tooltips.
Is 2/ covered ? Do we need a xpage=xhtml for it ?
Note that xpage=xpart&vm=contentview.vm can be used as a workaround.
If you we
want to have something clean for the future it seems to me
that having a parameter called outputType (or simply output, or type,
or contentType) which can take all renderer values would be best.
For ex outputType=xhtml, xwiki, text, pdf, rtf, etc
And when not specified it would default to outputType=xhtml.
For removing the UI I'd use another parameter since it's orthogonal.
Something like showUI=true|false
Jerome.
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9:15 p.m.
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Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
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Ludovic Dubost
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XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
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On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 13:49, Jerome Velociter
<jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
I'm for keeping xpage=plain for lightboxes and other HTML usages (the
content in HTML without the skin)
and we create other template for plain text output type.
Ludovic
Thomas Mortagne wrote:
I breaks anyway, if you use plain text renderer it breaks lightboxes
and if it use xhtml renderer it break JSON...
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 13:15, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
I think it's better to do it another way in 2.0 and keep xpage=plain
compatible, so that pages that are called with this parameter (from AJAX
requests for example) can be converted and keep offering their service.
If we use a plain text renderer, it will break functionalities if/when
converting to 2.0 (for example UI displayed in lightboxes, ajax
updaters, etc)
On May 4, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean
wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Thomas Mortagne
> <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi devs,
>>
>> In 2.0 architecture we have no way currently to print a strongly
>> formatted text (like JSON) or simply a plain text without XHTML which
>> we are doing generally using xpage=plain in XWiki 1.0
>>
> With the 1.0 syntax xpage=plain was mainly used to:
> 1/ Output data in special format (JSON, xls, etc). In those cases
> {pre} was used to avoid xhtml transformations.
> 2/ Output xhtml content without the XWiki UI, I can think of one use
> case where this content was put in ajax tooltips.
>
> Is 2/ covered ? Do we need a xpage=xhtml for it ?
> Note that xpage=xpart&vm=contentview.vm can be used as a workaround.
>
If you we want to have something clean for the future it seems to me
that having a parameter called outputType (or simply output, or type,
or contentType) which can take all renderer values would be best.
For ex outputType=xhtml, xwiki, text, pdf, rtf, etc
And when not specified it would default to outputType=xhtml.
For removing the UI I'd use another parameter since it's orthogonal.
Something like showUI=true|false
As i said this mail is about finding what to do with xpage=plain and
not find the way to call the plain text renderer. I just want to know
if we try to be able to use xpage=plain with 2.0 content or if we
don't do anything an say that you have to do this another way for 2.0.
Jerome.
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1:24 p.m.
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Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
Note that xpage=xpart&vm=contentview.vm can be
used as a workaround.
I'd rather not. xpart seems like a mistake to me, so it's better not to
use it even more that it is used now.
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