Hi Benjamin,
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Benjamin Lanciaux <
benjamin.lanciaux(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Thanks for your feedback.
[..]
About the reported bugs, they are all fixed (language, scroll bars etc.).
That was due to a bad html import in
xwiki.org whereas it worked well
everywhere else.
[..]
You can check the survey by clicking on the following link :
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures2012
Indeed, it looks a lot better now.
I'd suggest two small tweaks:
- potentially highlight a bit the listed sections/themes
- if possible, push the bold recommendations text below the XWiki icon
Regards,
Florin
Thanks for helping
Benjamin
2012/1/24 Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com>
On 01/24/2012 02:53 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu<sergiu(a)xwiki.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 01/23/2012 12:19 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi devs,
>>>
>>> In 2009 we launched a survey on
xwiki.org:
>>>
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/**bin/view/Main/**SurveyXWikiFeatures2009<
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures2009>
>>>
>>> The results were published here:
>>> -
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/**bin/view/Blog/Features+Survey+**Results<
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/Features+Survey+Results>
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/FeatureStatus20120119>
>>>
>>> The idea is to do that same with a new survey. Benjamin Lanciaux (from
>>> XWiki SAS) has prepared one here:
>>>
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/**bin/view/Main/**SurveyXWikiFeatures2012<
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures2012>
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you're ok and I'll send the survey on the user
>>> list.
>>>
>>
>>
>> On top of Florin's remarks, I'd like to add that, in my opinion, the
>> themes
>> are not that well composed.
>>
>> Applications and App Store mixes several different things. On one hand
it
>> includes something as generic as
"More apps bundled", then it goes to
>> something as specific as "Glossary". Plus, it includes the "XWiki
>> Network"
>> which isn't something that the open source community handles. Why are
>> there
>> only two specific apps mentioned? Was it somehow determined that these
>> are
>> the most important apps requested by the community?
>>
>> Dev Tools: I'm not sure we should have this section at all. What is the
>> target of this survey? People that can understand and have an opinion
on
>> this section aren't casual users.
We're mixing user-facing features and
>> platform internals. Most of the items proposed here, like the new data
>> model
>> or interface extensions, can only be evaluated by experienced
committers.
>> Others, such as "Syntax
coloring" and "Livetable improvements", might
fit
>> better in the "User dev tools"
section. There is a risk that these very
>> technical items be considered important only by a handful of
committers,
>> thus getting a very low score, although
they are a precondition for
>> implementing other features proposed in the survey. Typo:
>> "Translate->Translatable document objects".
>>
>> Quality: This is another section that seems to mix a broad range of
>> topics,
>> from UI/UX improvements to internal aspects like LDAP, and build stuff
>> like
>> automated integration tests. Maybe instead of "Run Automated UI
>> Tests..." we
>> should say something that most users can relate to, such as "Better
>> quality
>> assurance for the supported browsers and databases". Why is multipage
>> export
>> related to quality? And will users understand the difference between
this
>> multipage export and the one in the
"Wiki Management" section? Typo:
>> "Sync
>> big (more then->than 2000 users) LDAP/AD groups".
>>
>> Ease of Use: I don't see the difference between some of the items here
>> and
>> items from the previous category.
>>
>> Help: I'd rename this section "Documentation". For "Shortcut
help" I'd
>> link
>> to the design page where it's pretty neatly detailed.
>>
>>
> Universal Access: This should be renamed to Mobile Access, since it
only
>> lists mobile-related items.
"Universal" access implies more than a
phone,
and should include stuff like better support for R2L
languages, better
support for screen readers, a voice stylesheet, better stylesheet for
print,
stylesheets for small screens and for TVs. If you want to keep the
"Universal Access" title, then some of the items I mentioned should be
included in the survey as well.
I don't think it's bad to have a generic category name as "Universal
access" even if we list only mobile related items. For me this is an
open door for users to suggest features in that domain. Listing other
items is not bad either but may send the wrong message that there is
already someone (e.g. XWiki SAS) interested in implementing that
feature, which might not be true.
I would like to work on that, although I don't think it's a priority.
Thanks,
> Marius
>
>
>> Wiki Management: What's the difference between "Multipage Export"
from
>> the
>> Quality section, "Multipage Export UI" and "Better Wiki
Import/Export"?
>>
>> What kind of user are you: What does "developer" mean? Is it a
committer
>> developing the XWiki platform itself, or
idoes it refer to external
users
>> that develop applications on top of XWiki
for their own wikis / for
their
>> employers?
>>
>> We should include a final big textarea where users can write any
comments
they'd like to share with us.
In general:
- too many abbreviations
- I'd link most of the items to their associated Jira issue or design
page,
if they have one
- some items are too cryptic or broad, like "Messaging UI" or "Improve
print
option", while others are too long, like "New data model for accessing
and
manipulating XWiki entities (needed for nested spaces for ex, global
versioning, rights on XObjects, translations on XObjects, etc)"
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