2 May
2017
2 May
'17
4:05 p.m.
Hi devs,
I'm currently working on a new package format to package a bunch of
extensions into a single file.
The first use case is to make offline install easier. We can't count on all
in one XAR anymore (plus all in one XAR prduces very crappy extensions) so
I was thinking about providing a generic package containing all the
extensions you need in it. It will simply be a zip containing extensions in
the same format than Extension Manager local repository so that you can
unzip it it there (or later use some UI to "import" it).
So now I need a name for this new package. Since extension descriptor file
extension is "xed" (for "XWiki Extension Descriptor") I was thinking
about
naming it XEP (for "XWiki Extension Package"). Any better idea ?
For now my plan is to provide the following:
* a new Maven handler for <packaging>xep</packaging>
* a new Maven mojo "xep" in the existing extension Maven plugin
* start using it with the new platform flavor which is supposed to replace
XE so that people can have something to use for offline installs
WDYT ?
--
Thomas Mortagne
2 May
2 May
4:28 p.m.
Hi,
On 2 May 2017, at 16:05, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
I'm currently working on a new package format to package a bunch of
extensions into a single file.
The first use case is to make offline install easier. We can't count on all
in one XAR anymore (plus all in one XAR prduces very crappy extensions) so
I was thinking about providing a generic package containing all the
extensions you need in it. It will simply be a zip containing extensions in
the same format than Extension Manager local repository so that you can
unzip it it there (or later use some UI to "import" it).
So now I need a name for this new package. Since extension descriptor file
extension is "xed" (for "XWiki Extension Descriptor") I was thinking
about
naming it XEP (for "XWiki Extension Package"). Any better idea ?
For now my plan is to provide the following:
* a new Maven handler for <packaging>xep</packaging>
* a new Maven mojo "xep" in the existing extension Maven plugin
* start using it with the new platform flavor which is supposed to replace
XE so that people can have something to use for offline installs
WDYT ?
Sounds good.
Regarding the naming, assuming we need a file extension other than ZIP, "XWiki
Extension Package” seems like a package for a single XWiki Extension.
Some ideas. Why not something in the name that suggest it’s a repository.
For example: XWiki Extension Repository Archive or XWiki Repository Archive for short,
which, using a 3LA, would translate into XRA.
XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
XRA = XWiki Repository Archive = a repository of extensions = several extensions
We could also have XWiki Extension Repository, i.e. “XER”, which would also be one letter
change from XAR:
XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
XER = XWiki Extension Repository = a repository of extensions = several extensions
Now since the users will need to unzip this binary and they won’t import it (as they do
for XAR), it would be better for it to be ZIP as otherwise it’ll harder to unzip (no
double-clicking on it for ex).
Thanks
-Vincent
--
Thomas Mortagne
4:36 p.m.
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi,
I'm fine with XER.
On 2 May 2017, at 16:05, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
Hi devs,
I'm currently working on a new package format to package a bunch of
extensions into a single file.
The first use case is to make offline install easier. We can't count on
all
in one XAR anymore (plus all in one XAR prduces
very crappy extensions)
so
I was thinking about providing a generic package
containing all the
extensions you need in it. It will simply be a zip containing extensions
in
the same format than Extension Manager local
repository so that you can
unzip it it there (or later use some UI to "import" it).
So now I need a name for this new package. Since extension descriptor
file
extension is "xed" (for "XWiki
Extension Descriptor") I was thinking
about
naming it XEP (for "XWiki Extension
Package"). Any better idea ?
For now my plan is to provide the following:
* a new Maven handler for <packaging>xep</packaging>
* a new Maven mojo "xep" in the existing extension Maven plugin
* start using it with the new platform flavor which is supposed to
replace
XE so that people can have something to use for
offline installs
WDYT ?
Sounds good.
Regarding the naming, assuming we need a file extension other than ZIP,
"XWiki Extension Package” seems like a package for a single XWiki Extension.
Some ideas. Why not something in the name that suggest it’s a repository.
For example: XWiki Extension Repository Archive or XWiki Repository
Archive for short, which, using a 3LA, would translate into XRA.
XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
XRA = XWiki Repository Archive = a repository of extensions = several
extensions
We could also have XWiki Extension Repository, i.e. “XER”, which would
also be one letter change from XAR:
XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
XER = XWiki Extension Repository = a repository of extensions = several
extensions
Now since the users will need to unzip this binary and
they won’t import
it (as they do for XAR), it would be better for it to be ZIP as otherwise
it’ll harder to unzip (no double-clicking on it for ex).
As I said I think we'll have a UI for it at some point. I just don't think
I will have time to work on that in the new platform flavor scope (or maybe
just a quick tool in
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Extension+Tweak).
Thanks
-Vincent
--
Thomas Mortagne
--
Thomas Mortagne
4:43 p.m.
On 2 May 2017, at 16:36, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
I know you said that but IMO the primary usage is for users to unzip into a given
directory and the easiest is to provide a ZIP to them. Even if we have an import UI, we
can still offer the ZIP to that UI…
So at this point, I don’t fully understand why we’d need something other than zip.
Sounds like we might be overcomplicated things. On the maven side, we could use the maven
assembly plugin to generate the zip.
Am I missing something?
Thanks
-Vincent
Hi,
I'm fine with XER.
On 2 May 2017, at 16:05, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
Hi devs,
I'm currently working on a new package format to package a bunch of
extensions into a single file.
The first use case is to make offline install easier. We can't count on
all
in one XAR anymore (plus all in one XAR prduces
very crappy extensions)
so
I was thinking about providing a generic package
containing all the
extensions you need in it. It will simply be a zip containing extensions
in
the same format than Extension Manager local
repository so that you can
unzip it it there (or later use some UI to "import" it).
So now I need a name for this new package. Since extension descriptor
file
extension is "xed" (for "XWiki
Extension Descriptor") I was thinking
about
naming it XEP (for "XWiki Extension
Package"). Any better idea ?
For now my plan is to provide the following:
* a new Maven handler for <packaging>xep</packaging>
* a new Maven mojo "xep" in the existing extension Maven plugin
* start using it with the new platform flavor which is supposed to
replace
XE so that people can have something to use for
offline installs
WDYT ?
Sounds good.
Regarding the naming, assuming we need a file extension other than ZIP,
"XWiki Extension Package” seems like a package for a single XWiki Extension.
Some ideas. Why not something in the name that suggest it’s a repository.
For example: XWiki Extension Repository Archive or XWiki Repository
Archive for short, which, using a 3LA, would translate into XRA.
XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
XRA = XWiki Repository Archive = a repository of extensions = several
extensions
We could also have XWiki Extension Repository, i.e. “XER”, which would
also be one letter change from XAR:
XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
XER = XWiki Extension Repository = a repository of extensions = several
extensions
Now since the users will need to unzip this
binary and they won’t import
it (as they do for XAR), it would be better for it to be ZIP as otherwise
it’ll harder to unzip (no double-clicking on it for ex).
As I said I think we'll have a UI for it at some point. I just don't think
I will have time to work on that in the new platform flavor scope (or maybe
just a quick tool in
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Extension+Tweak). Thanks
-Vincent
--
Thomas Mortagne
--
Thomas Mortagne
5:02 p.m.
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
otherwise
think
Just using assembly plugin is not enough because you also need get the
dependencies, put them in the right sub-folders, generate the extensions
descriptors and exclude dependencies that are already part of the WAR (in
flavor package use case) so you need a special mojo to take care of all
that. also it's still a specific package with a specific format that happen
to be based on zip, I find it more clear to give it a specific file
extension (it "certify" that you won't get surprise when unzipping it).
Double clicking on the file is really not a major use case for me since
this is going to be used mostly on servers. When you do "unzip myfile" the
file extension does not really matter much.
On 2 May 2017, at 16:36, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> On 2 May 2017, at 16:05, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi devs,
>>
>> I'm currently working on a new package format to package a bunch of
>> extensions into a single file.
>>
>> The first use case is to make offline install easier. We can't count on
> all
>> in one XAR anymore (plus all in one XAR prduces very crappy extensions)
> so
>> I was thinking about providing a generic package containing all the
>> extensions you need in it. It will simply be a zip containing
extensions
> in
>> the same format than Extension Manager local repository so that you can
>> unzip it it there (or later use some UI to "import" it).
>>
>> So now I need a name for this new package. Since extension descriptor
> file
>> extension is "xed" (for "XWiki Extension Descriptor") I was
thinking
> about
>> naming it XEP (for "XWiki Extension Package"). Any better idea ?
>>
>> For now my plan is to provide the following:
>> * a new Maven handler for <packaging>xep</packaging>
>> * a new Maven mojo "xep" in the existing extension Maven plugin
>> * start using it with the new platform flavor which is supposed to
> replace
>> XE so that people can have something to use for offline installs
>>
>> WDYT ?
>
> Sounds good.
>
> Regarding the naming, assuming we need a file extension other than ZIP,
> "XWiki Extension Package” seems like a package for a single XWiki
Extension.
>
> Some ideas. Why not something in the name that suggest it’s a
repository.
For example: XWiki Extension Repository Archive or XWiki Repository
Archive for short, which, using a 3LA, would translate into XRA.
XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
XRA = XWiki Repository Archive = a repository of extensions = several
extensions
We could also have XWiki Extension Repository, i.e. “XER”, which would
also be one letter change from XAR:
XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
XER = XWiki Extension Repository = a repository of extensions = several
extensions
I'm fine with XER.
> Now since the users will need to unzip this binary and they won’t import
> it (as they do for XAR), it would be better for it to be ZIP as it’ll
harder to unzip (no double-clicking on it for ex).
As I said I think we'll have a UI for it at some point. I just don't I will have time to work on that in the new
platform flavor scope (or
maybe
just a quick tool in
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Extension+Tweak).
I know you said that but IMO the primary usage is for users to unzip into
a given directory and the easiest is to provide a ZIP to them. Even if we
have an import UI, we can still offer the ZIP to that UI…
So at this point, I don’t fully understand why we’d need something other
than zip.
Sounds like we might be overcomplicated things. On the maven side, we
could use the maven assembly plugin to generate the zip.
Am I missing something?
Thanks
-Vincent
--
Thomas Mortagne
Thanks
-Vincent
--
Thomas Mortagne
--
Thomas Mortagne
5:32 p.m.
XIP = XWiki Importable Package :)
sounds like ZIP, so I think is funny :)
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
on
can
several
think
Just using assembly plugin is not enough because you also need get the
dependencies, put them in the right sub-folders, generate the extensions
descriptors and exclude dependencies that are already part of the WAR (in
flavor package use case) so you need a special mojo to take care of all
that. also it's still a specific package with a specific format that happen
to be based on zip, I find it more clear to give it a specific file
extension (it "certify" that you won't get surprise when unzipping it).
Double clicking on the file is really not a major use case for me since
this is going to be used mostly on servers. When you do "unzip myfile" the
file extension does not really matter much.
On 2 May 2017, at 16:36, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> On 2 May 2017, at 16:05, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi devs,
>>>
>>> I'm currently working on a new package format to package a bunch of
>>> extensions into a single file.
>>>
>>> The first use case is to make offline install easier. We can't count
>> all
>>> in one XAR anymore (plus all in one XAR prduces very crappy
extensions)
> so
>> I was thinking about providing a generic package containing all the
>> extensions you need in it. It will simply be a zip containing
extensions
>> in
>>> the same format than Extension Manager local repository so that you >>> unzip it it there (or later use some
UI to "import" it).
>>>
>>> So now I need a name for this new package. Since extension descriptor
>> file
>>> extension is "xed" (for "XWiki Extension Descriptor") I
was thinking
>> about
>>> naming it XEP (for "XWiki Extension Package"). Any better idea ?
>>>
>>> For now my plan is to provide the following:
>>> * a new Maven handler for <packaging>xep</packaging>
>>> * a new Maven mojo "xep" in the existing extension Maven plugin
>>> * start using it with the new platform flavor which is supposed to
>> replace
>>> XE so that people can have something to use for offline installs
>>>
>>> WDYT ?
>>
>> Sounds good.
>>
>> Regarding the naming, assuming we need a file extension other than
ZIP,
>
"XWiki Extension Package” seems like a package for a single XWiki
Extension.
>
> Some ideas. Why not something in the name that suggest it’s a
repository.
>>
>> For example: XWiki Extension Repository Archive or XWiki Repository
>> Archive for short, which, using a 3LA, would translate into XRA.
>>
>> XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
>> XRA = XWiki Repository Archive = a repository of extensions = several
>> extensions
>>
>> We could also have XWiki Extension Repository, i.e. “XER”, which would
>> also be one letter change from XAR:
>>
>> XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
>> XER = XWiki Extension Repository = a repository of extensions = >> extensions
>>
>
> I'm fine with XER.
>
>
>> Now since the users will need to unzip this binary and they won’t
import
> it
(as they do for XAR), it would be better for it to be ZIP as
otherwise
it’ll
harder to unzip (no double-clicking on it for ex).
As I said I think we'll have a UI for it at some point. I just don't I will have time to work on that in the new
platform flavor scope (or
maybe
just a quick tool in
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Extension+Tweak).
I know you said that but IMO the primary usage is for users to unzip into
a given directory and the easiest is to provide a ZIP to them. Even if we
have an import UI, we can still offer the ZIP to that UI…
So at this point, I don’t fully understand why we’d need something other
than zip.
Sounds like we might be overcomplicated things. On the maven side, we
could use the maven assembly plugin to generate the zip.
Am I missing something?
Thanks
-Vincent
--
Thomas Mortagne
Thanks
-Vincent
>
> --
> Thomas Mortagne
--
Thomas Mortagne 
3 May
3 May
9:34 p.m.
+1 for XIP
:)
Best,
Krzysiek
2017-05-02 17:32 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>om>:
XIP = XWiki Importable Package :)
sounds like ZIP, so I think is funny :)
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com
wrote:
> > > > On 2 May 2017, at 16:36, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, May 2,
2017 at 4:28 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >>> On 2 May 2017, at 16:05, Thomas Mortagne <
thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
several
> > > I'm fine with
XER.
> > > > > > >> Now since the users will need to unzip this
binary and they won’t
> import
> > >> it (as they do for XAR), it would be better for it to be ZIP as
> > otherwise
> > >> it’ll harder to unzip (no double-clicking on it for ex).
> > >>
> > > > > As I said I think
we'll have a UI for it at some point. I just don't
> > think
> > > I will have time to work on that in the new platform flavor scope (or
> > maybe
> > > just a quick tool in
> > > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Extension+Tweak
).
> > > I know you said that but
IMO the primary usage is for users to unzip
into
> > So at this point, I don’t
fully understand why we’d need something
other
> > than zip.
> > > Sounds like we might be
overcomplicated things. On the maven side, we
> > could use the maven assembly plugin to generate the zip.
> > > Am I missing something?
> > Just using assembly plugin is not enough because you also
need get the
> dependencies, put them in the right sub-folders, generate the extensions
> descriptors and exclude dependencies that are already part of the WAR (in
> flavor package use case) so you need a special mojo to take care of all
> that. also it's still a specific package with a specific format that
happen
> to be based on zip, I find it more clear to give it a specific file
> extension (it "certify" that you won't get surprise when unzipping
it).
> Double clicking on the file is really
not a major use case for me since
> this is going to be used mostly on servers. When you do "unzip myfile"
the
> file extension does not really matter much.
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> > > > Thanks
> > >> -Vincent
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Thomas Mortagne
> > >>
> > >>
> > > > > > > --
> > > Thomas Mortagne
> > > --
> Thomas Mortagne
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi devs,
> >>>
> >>> I'm currently working on a new package format to package a bunch
of
> >>> extensions into a single file.
> >>>
> >>> The first use case is to make offline install easier. We can't
count
on
can
> >>> unzip it it there (or later use some UI to "import" it).
> >>>
> >>> So now I need a name for this new package. Since extension
descriptor
>> all
>>> in one XAR anymore (plus all in one XAR prduces very crappy
extensions)
> so
>> I was thinking about providing a generic package containing all the
>> extensions you need in it. It will simply be a zip containing
extensions
>> in
>>> the same format than Extension Manager local repository so that you > >> file
> >>> extension is "xed" (for "XWiki Extension
Descriptor") I was
thinking
>>
about
>>> naming it XEP (for "XWiki Extension Package"). Any better idea ?
>>>
>>> For now my plan is to provide the following:
>>> * a new Maven handler for <packaging>xep</packaging>
>>> * a new Maven mojo "xep" in the existing extension Maven plugin
>>> * start using it with the new platform flavor which is supposed to
>> replace
>>> XE so that people can have something to use for offline installs
>>>
>>> WDYT ?
>>
>> Sounds good.
>>
>> Regarding the naming, assuming we need a file extension other than
ZIP,
> >> "XWiki Extension Package” seems like a package for a single XWiki
> Extension.
> >>
> >> Some ideas. Why not something in the name that suggest it’s a
> repository.
> >>
> >> For example: XWiki Extension Repository Archive or XWiki Repository
> >> Archive for short, which, using a 3LA, would translate into XRA.
> >>
> >> XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
> >> XRA = XWiki Repository Archive = a repository of extensions = > >> extensions
> >>
> >> We could also have XWiki Extension Repository, i.e. “XER”, which
would
> > >> also be one letter change from XAR:
> > >>
> > >> XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
> > >> XER = XWiki Extension Repository = a repository of extensions =
> several
> > >> extensions
> > >>
> > > a given directory and the easiest is to
provide a ZIP to them. Even if
we
> > have an import UI, we can still offer the ZIP to that UI…
>
4 May
4 May
6:47 p.m.
Users are very bad at reading or following instructions. It's likely
that they will download the file, double click it, and expect it to be
installed automatically.
If the extension is .zip, then the OS will silently unpack it, and the
user won't know what to do next. But since at least something happened,
they might actually think that the file installed itself, then wonder
why it still doesn't work.
If the extension is something special, then the OS won't know what to do
with it, and present a dialog warning that the file can't be opened, and
the user is more likely to search for information about how that file
can be installed.
The downside of it not being a .zip file is that when the user should
unzip it, it's a bit more difficult to do it.
+1 for .xip, it seems that nobody else is using it.
https://fileinfo.com/extension/xip
On 05/02/2017 10:43 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu
On 2 May 2017, at 16:36, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
I know you said that but IMO the primary usage is for users to unzip into a given
directory and the easiest is to provide a ZIP to them. Even if we have an import UI, we
can still offer the ZIP to that UI…
So at this point, I don’t fully understand why we’d need something other than zip.
Sounds like we might be overcomplicated things. On the maven side, we could use the maven
assembly plugin to generate the zip.
Am I missing something?
Thanks
-Vincent
Hi,
I'm fine with XER.
On 2 May 2017, at 16:05, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
Hi devs,
I'm currently working on a new package format to package a bunch of
extensions into a single file.
The first use case is to make offline install easier. We can't count on
all
in one XAR anymore (plus all in one XAR prduces
very crappy extensions)
so
I was thinking about providing a generic package
containing all the
extensions you need in it. It will simply be a zip containing extensions
in
the same format than Extension Manager local
repository so that you can
unzip it it there (or later use some UI to "import" it).
So now I need a name for this new package. Since extension descriptor
file
extension is "xed" (for "XWiki
Extension Descriptor") I was thinking
about
naming it XEP (for "XWiki Extension
Package"). Any better idea ?
For now my plan is to provide the following:
* a new Maven handler for <packaging>xep</packaging>
* a new Maven mojo "xep" in the existing extension Maven plugin
* start using it with the new platform flavor which is supposed to
replace
XE so that people can have something to use for
offline installs
WDYT ?
Sounds good.
Regarding the naming, assuming we need a file extension other than ZIP,
"XWiki Extension Package” seems like a package for a single XWiki Extension.
Some ideas. Why not something in the name that suggest it’s a repository.
For example: XWiki Extension Repository Archive or XWiki Repository
Archive for short, which, using a 3LA, would translate into XRA.
XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
XRA = XWiki Repository Archive = a repository of extensions = several
extensions
We could also have XWiki Extension Repository, i.e. “XER”, which would
also be one letter change from XAR:
XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
XER = XWiki Extension Repository = a repository of extensions = several
extensions
Now since the users will need to unzip this
binary and they won’t import
it (as they do for XAR), it would be better for it to be ZIP as otherwise
it’ll harder to unzip (no double-clicking on it for ex).
As I said I think we'll have a UI for it at some point. I just don't think
I will have time to work on that in the new platform flavor scope (or maybe
just a quick tool in
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Extension+Tweak). Thanks
-Vincent
--
Thomas Mortagne
--
Thomas Mortagne
7:48 p.m.
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
Users are very bad at reading or following
instructions. It's likely
that they will download the file, double click it, and expect it to be
installed automatically.
If the extension is .zip, then the OS will silently unpack it, and the
user won't know what to do next. But since at least something happened,
they might actually think that the file installed itself, then wonder
why it still doesn't work.
If the extension is something special, then the OS won't know what to do
with it, and present a dialog warning that the file can't be opened, and
the user is more likely to search for information about how that file
can be installed.
The downside of it not being a .zip file is that when the user should
unzip it, it's a bit more difficult to do it.
+1 for .xip, it seems that nobody else is using it.
Indeed I was not sure where to look for this. I checked quickly on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_filename_extensions_(S%E2%80%93Z)#X
but it did not felt like the right reference :)
So +1 for xip too.
https://fileinfo.com/extension/xip
On 05/02/2017 10:43 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
into a given
directory and the easiest is to provide a ZIP to them. Even if
we have an import UI, we can still offer the ZIP to that UI…
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Thomas Mortagne
> On 2 May 2017, at 16:36, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> On 2 May 2017, at 16:05, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi devs,
>>>
>>> I'm currently working on a new package format to package a bunch of
>>> extensions into a single file.
>>>
>>> The first use case is to make offline install easier. We can't count
on
>> all
>>> in one XAR anymore (plus all in one XAR prduces very crappy
extensions)
>> so
>>> I was thinking about providing a generic package containing all the
>>> extensions you need in it. It will simply be a zip containing
extensions
>> in
>>> the same format than Extension Manager local repository so that you
can
>>> unzip it it there (or later use some
UI to "import" it).
>>>
>>> So now I need a name for this new package. Since extension descriptor
>> file
>>> extension is "xed" (for "XWiki Extension Descriptor") I
was thinking
>> about
>>> naming it XEP (for "XWiki Extension Package"). Any better idea ?
>>>
>>> For now my plan is to provide the following:
>>> * a new Maven handler for <packaging>xep</packaging>
>>> * a new Maven mojo "xep" in the existing extension Maven plugin
>>> * start using it with the new platform flavor which is supposed to
>> replace
>>> XE so that people can have something to use for offline installs
>>>
>>> WDYT ?
>>
>> Sounds good.
>>
>> Regarding the naming, assuming we need a file extension other than ZIP,
>> "XWiki Extension Package” seems like a package for a single XWiki
Extension.
>>
>> Some ideas. Why not something in the name that suggest it’s a
repository.
>>
>> For example: XWiki Extension Repository Archive or XWiki Repository
>> Archive for short, which, using a 3LA, would translate into XRA.
>>
>> XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
>> XRA = XWiki Repository Archive = a repository of extensions = several
>> extensions
>>
>> We could also have XWiki Extension Repository, i.e. “XER”, which would
>> also be one letter change from XAR:
>>
>> XAR = XWiki Archive = a single extension
>> XER = XWiki Extension Repository = a repository of extensions = several
>> extensions
>>
>
> I'm fine with XER.
>
>
>> Now since the users will need to unzip this binary and they won’t
import
>> it (as they do for XAR), it would be
better for it to be ZIP as
otherwise
>> it’ll harder to unzip (no double-clicking
on it for ex).
>>
>
> As I said I think we'll have a UI for it at some point. I just don't
think
> I will have time to work on that in the new
platform flavor scope (or
maybe
just a
quick tool in
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Extension+Tweak).
I know you said that but IMO the primary usage is for users to unzip
So at this point, I don’t fully understand why we’d need something other
than
zip.
Sounds like we might be overcomplicated things. On the maven side, we
could use
the maven assembly plugin to generate the zip.
Am I missing something?
Thanks
-Vincent
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Thanks
-Vincent
>
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> Thomas Mortagne
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