Re: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] Lots of disabled Yahoo email addresses on the xwiki.org lists
8 Nov
2016
8 Nov
'16
9:40 a.m.
Hello,
It is strange because my emails have a DKIM signature like here (piece of header from a
mail I sent from my xwiki email to myself at another adress).
Is it sympa who's altering this signature?
Can I fix it (if it is "my fault")?
Thxs
Pascal
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Received: from nm43-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm43-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
[67.195.87.220])
xxx
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s2048; t=1478593132;
bh=g3zLYH4xKxcPrHOD18z9YfpQcnk/GaJedfustWU5uGs=;
h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject;
b=N6C8UltuP6jp4mZaWG43Y1ngel4R75RdftqTuXxYHngnseuGe5/2k2/H5pwVcJVe34gjtB33vMZm1j4yZ56M8++zNl4Asb4xV/6wwF+JL+ZGlcXTmfJdGlx5+GdukOzN6bX9Dz9Lvp5GpsYHZnWE8eANw0SeJ9t9wcvzKmNOYW+t9S53N27nfRfjYAwm7iZVmUsgbbZlpnW3NYrPOLoBGZX67aq6gsq877LKUyLLgLP5oszQnx3cUZAsgmjRuSYIIzjF42vfzjVjs7rOoO7royNl5O8BeFlgpevF/BDk2g2K7KXRTkkKtmDMxxxx
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En date de : Lun 7.11.16, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org> a écrit :
Objet: Re: [xwiki-users] Lots of disabled Yahoo email addresses on the xwiki.org lists
À: "XWiki Users" <users(a)xwiki.org>rg>, "XWiki Developers"
<devs(a)xwiki.org>
Date: Lundi 7 novembre 2016, 15h40
By the way, all of
Pascal's and Julio's emails (and other yahoo
users)
end up in my spam folder because of
the broken DKIM signatures.
On
11/07/2016 09:24 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
modern email providers to subscribe
This is partially XWiki's
infrastructure
fault, too.
DMARC doesn't work well with mailing
lists, since they tend to break
DKIM
signatures. The only way to fix the
problem (at least for
the
majority of emails) is to remove
the footer
from the configuration.
So, options:
- remove the footer, which means that
"incompetent" users will have a
hard time finding information about
unsubscribing, but allows users from
-
keep the footer, which makes it harder for
legitimate users
to stay
> subscribed
8 Nov
8 Nov
3:50 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] Lots of disabled Yahoo email addresses on the xwiki.org lists
It's not your fault, it's XWiki's Mailman's fault.
The signature verifies that your original email is valid.
But Mailman appends the following to the bottom of the mails:
devs mailing list
devs(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
By adding this, the signature now fails. Since yahoo now says that mails
without a valid signature aren't trusted, your email becomes untrusted.
I see now that your mail doesn't have this signature anymore (hurray
XWiki infra!), and is now considered valid:
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
dkim=pass header.i=(a)yahoo.fr;
dmarc=pass (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=yahoo.fr
On 11/08/2016 03:40 AM, Pascal BASTIEN wrote:
Hello,
It is strange because my emails have a DKIM signature like here (piece of header from a
mail I sent from my xwiki email to myself at another adress).
Is it sympa who's altering this signature?
Can I fix it (if it is "my fault")?
Thxs
Pascal
----------------------------------
Received: from nm43-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm43-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
[67.195.87.220])
xxx
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s2048; t=1478593132;
bh=g3zLYH4xKxcPrHOD18z9YfpQcnk/GaJedfustWU5uGs=;
h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject;
b=N6C8UltuP6jp4mZaWG43Y1ngel4R75RdftqTuXxYHngnseuGe5/2k2/H5pwVcJVe34gjtB33vMZm1j4yZ56M8++zNl4Asb4xV/6wwF+JL+ZGlcXTmfJdGlx5+GdukOzN6bX9Dz9Lvp5GpsYHZnWE8eANw0SeJ9t9wcvzKmNOYW+t9S53N27nfRfjYAwm7iZVmUsgbbZlpnW3NYrPOLoBGZX67aq6gsq877LKUyLLgLP5oszQnx3cUZAsgmjRuSYIIzjF42vfzjVjs7rOoO7royNl5O8BeFlgpevF/BDk2g2K7KXRTkkKtmDMxxxx
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En date de : Lun 7.11.16, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org> a écrit :
Objet: Re: [xwiki-users] Lots of disabled Yahoo email addresses on the xwiki.org lists
À: "XWiki Users" <users(a)xwiki.org>rg>, "XWiki Developers"
<devs(a)xwiki.org>
Date: Lundi 7 novembre 2016, 15h40
By the way, all of
Pascal's and Julio's emails (and other yahoo
users)
end up in my spam folder because of
the broken DKIM signatures.
On
11/07/2016 09:24 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
modern email providers to subscribe
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu
This is partially XWiki's
infrastructure fault, too.
DMARC doesn't work well with mailing
lists, since they tend to break
DKIM
signatures. The only way to fix the
problem (at least for
the
majority of emails) is to remove
the
footer from the configuration.
So, options:
- remove the footer, which means that
"incompetent" users will have a
hard time finding information about
unsubscribing, but allows users from
-
keep the footer, which makes it harder
for legitimate users
to stay
> subscribed
3:54 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] Lots of disabled Yahoo email addresses on the xwiki.org lists
Or actually it's because you sent the mail directly to me, and I see a
copy that hasn't been through mailman. Everybody else got it in the Spam
folder, with the broken signature.
On 11/08/2016 09:50 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
It's not your fault, it's XWiki's
Mailman's fault.
The signature verifies that your original email is valid.
But Mailman appends the following to the bottom of the mails:
devs mailing list
devs(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
By adding this, the signature now fails. Since yahoo now says that mails
without a valid signature aren't trusted, your email becomes untrusted.
I see now that your mail doesn't have this signature anymore (hurray
XWiki infra!), and is now considered valid:
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
dkim=pass header.i=(a)yahoo.fr;
dmarc=pass (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=yahoo.fr
On 11/08/2016 03:40 AM, Pascal BASTIEN wrote:
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu
Hello,
It is strange because my emails have a DKIM signature like here (piece of header from a
mail I sent from my xwiki email to myself at another adress).
Is it sympa who's altering this signature?
Can I fix it (if it is "my fault")?
Thxs
Pascal
----------------------------------
Received: from nm43-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm43-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
[67.195.87.220])
xxx
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s2048; t=1478593132;
bh=g3zLYH4xKxcPrHOD18z9YfpQcnk/GaJedfustWU5uGs=;
h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject;
b=N6C8UltuP6jp4mZaWG43Y1ngel4R75RdftqTuXxYHngnseuGe5/2k2/H5pwVcJVe34gjtB33vMZm1j4yZ56M8++zNl4Asb4xV/6wwF+JL+ZGlcXTmfJdGlx5+GdukOzN6bX9Dz9Lvp5GpsYHZnWE8eANw0SeJ9t9wcvzKmNOYW+t9S53N27nfRfjYAwm7iZVmUsgbbZlpnW3NYrPOLoBGZX67aq6gsq877LKUyLLgLP5oszQnx3cUZAsgmjRuSYIIzjF42vfzjVjs7rOoO7royNl5O8BeFlgpevF/BDk2g2K7KXRTkkKtmDMxxxx
--------------------------------------------
En date de : Lun 7.11.16, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org> a écrit :
Objet: Re: [xwiki-users] Lots of disabled Yahoo email addresses on the xwiki.org lists
À: "XWiki Users" <users(a)xwiki.org>rg>, "XWiki Developers"
<devs(a)xwiki.org>
Date: Lundi 7 novembre 2016, 15h40
By the way, all of
Pascal's and Julio's emails (and other yahoo
users)
end up in my spam folder because of
the broken DKIM signatures.
On
11/07/2016 09:24 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
modern email providers to subscribe
This is partially XWiki's
infrastructure fault, too.
DMARC doesn't work well with mailing
lists, since they tend to break
DKIM
signatures. The only way to fix the
problem (at least for
the
majority of emails) is to remove
the
footer from the configuration.
So, options:
- remove the footer, which means that
"incompetent" users will have a
hard time finding information about
unsubscribing, but allows users from
-
keep the footer, which makes it harder
for legitimate users
to stay
> subscribed
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