7 May
2010
7 May
'10
4:50 p.m.
Hi developers,
A while ago I was looking for some ways to track how much memory is used
by our internal cache and was not able to find anything.
I've tried it again and this time I found the following code:
http://www.javamex.com/classmexer/
This requires a simple instrumentation to work, but I was able to get
some results out of it to measure the size of our documents in cache.
You can see the result on a personal server:
Measuring one page:
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/view/Admin/MemoryUsage
Measuring all pages in cache:
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/view/Admin/MemoryUsage?page=all
The first results I can see, is that with no surprise the items taking
most memory are:
- attachment content
- attachment archive
- archive
What I was able to see is that as expected these fields won't consume
memory until we are asking for the data.
And after a while, the memory is indeed discarded for these fields, so
the usage of SoftReferences for them seem to work.
Now what I can see is that the attachment archive can be very very very
costly in memory.
Also it does not seem clear how the memory from these fields is garbage
collected (a GC did not recover it).
With some experience of massive loading of attachments that lead to
OutOfMemory errors in the server, I do suspect that the SoftReferences
are not necessarly discarded fast enough to avoid the OutOfMemory. I
also believe that a search engine that is walking all our pages
including our archive pages can genearate important memory usage that
could lead to problems. But this is only an intuition that needs to be
proved.
I believe we need to run some testing under stress to see if the cache
and memory usage do behave properly and if the cache(s) are never able
to go over the memory usage.
We also should try the classmexer on servers that are heavily used an be
able to look at the memory usage and see if we are "controling" it. I'm
not 100% sure how intrusive the "instrumentation" module is but I
believe it's quite light.
We could try it on xwiki.org or on myxwiki.org.
WDYT ?
Ludovic
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Blog:http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki:http://www.xwiki.com
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9 May
9 May
11:36 p.m.
Hi developers,
It would be great to see some developers be interested in this thread.
We need to better understand memory usage by XWiki in order to achieve
higher throughput with controled memory usage.
I've found an additional interesting tools to use, the Eclipse Memory
Analyzer which works with a dump retrived using the command "jmap
-heap:format=b <processid>"
(This is practical because we can get such a dump on any running VM, and
we can even configure the VM to give such a dump when hitting OutOfMemory)
It gives some interesting results. I retrieved a dump from myxwiki.org
and analyzed it a bit
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/download/Admin/MemoryUsage/myxwikiorgmem.png
As the following image shows it, we have a significant amount of memory
in the velocity package in a structure meant to store all velocity macros.
It's 170Mb which represents 37% of the heap and which is more than the
document size.
I suspect that if we are able to achieve this amount we can achieve more
and reach OutOfMemory with only this module.
There is a chance that it is linked to MultiWiki usage where macros are
kept in a different context for each wiki, but it could be also
something growing regularly every time a macro is found in a page.
Even if it is growing by number of wikis, it is still potentially a
scalability issue. I already analyzed memory a long time ago and did not
see Velocity as storing a lot of information. This could be linked to
the new implementation in component mode.
Velocity+JBoss cache seem to hold at least 70% of the consumed heap.
This is clearly the area to focus on and verify that we can keep it in
control.
Ludovic
Le 07/05/10 16:50, Ludovic Dubost a écrit :
Hi developers,
A while ago I was looking for some ways to track how much memory is
used by our internal cache and was not able to find anything.
I've tried it again and this time I found the following code:
http://www.javamex.com/classmexer/
This requires a simple instrumentation to work, but I was able to get
some results out of it to measure the size of our documents in cache.
You can see the result on a personal server:
Measuring one page:
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/view/Admin/MemoryUsage
Measuring all pages in cache:
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/view/Admin/MemoryUsage?page=all
The first results I can see, is that with no surprise the items taking
most memory are:
- attachment content
- attachment archive
- archive
What I was able to see is that as expected these fields won't consume
memory until we are asking for the data.
And after a while, the memory is indeed discarded for these fields, so
the usage of SoftReferences for them seem to work.
Now what I can see is that the attachment archive can be very very
very costly in memory.
Also it does not seem clear how the memory from these fields is
garbage collected (a GC did not recover it).
With some experience of massive loading of attachments that lead to
OutOfMemory errors in the server, I do suspect that the SoftReferences
are not necessarly discarded fast enough to avoid the OutOfMemory. I
also believe that a search engine that is walking all our pages
including our archive pages can genearate important memory usage that
could lead to problems. But this is only an intuition that needs to be
proved.
I believe we need to run some testing under stress to see if the cache
and memory usage do behave properly and if the cache(s) are never able
to go over the memory usage.
We also should try the classmexer on servers that are heavily used an
be able to look at the memory usage and see if we are "controling" it.
I'm not 100% sure how intrusive the "instrumentation" module is but I
believe it's quite light.
We could try it on xwiki.org or on myxwiki.org.
WDYT ?
Ludovic
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XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
15 May
15 May
7:53 p.m.
170Mb of macros sounds like a leak.
I spent some time trying to figure out how to write the invitation
app more defensively and started looking for the cause of
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-4934
I wrote up a test which dumps all of the names of the working
velocity engines and the namespaces in each engine, the macros in
each namespace and the memory location of the name of the macro
(using identityHashCode which gives the location in most java
implementations). The macro names appear to be interned so counting
references to the memory location in the heap analysis tool should
show any duplicate macro leaks.
{{html clean=false}}<style>p {font-family:monospace;}</style>{{/html}}
{{groovy}}
vf =
com.xpn.xwiki.web.Utils.getComponent(org.xwiki.velocity.VelocityFactory.class);
println(vf.velocityEngines.size());
for (String engineName : vf.velocityEngines.keySet()) {
println("Velocity engine: " + engineName);
vmm =
vf.velocityEngines.get(engineName).engine.ri.vmFactory.vmManager;
println(" Velocity Macro Namespaces:")
for (String x : vmm.namespaceHash.keySet()) {
if (vmm.globalNamespace.equals(vmm.namespaceHash.get(x))) {
println(" Global Macro Namespace: " + x + " (" +
vmm.namespaceHash.get(x).size() + " entries)");
} else {
println(" Namespace: " + x + " (" +
vmm.namespaceHash.get(x).size() + " entries)");
}
for (String y : vmm.namespaceHash.get(x).keySet()) {
print(" #" + y);
for (int i = y.length(); i < 30; i++) {
print(" ");
}
println("java.lang.String@" +
Integer.toString(System.identityHashCode(y), 16));
}
println("\n\n");
}
}
{{/groovy}}
Not much to see on my local installation except that all syntax 2.0
velocity macros are in the same namespace. Might be more interesting
running on a large system.
Caleb
Ludovic Dubost wrote:
Hi developers,
It would be great to see some developers be interested in this thread.
We need to better understand memory usage by XWiki in order to achieve
higher throughput with controled memory usage.
I've found an additional interesting tools to use, the Eclipse Memory
Analyzer which works with a dump retrived using the command "jmap
-heap:format=b <processid>"
(This is practical because we can get such a dump on any running VM, and
we can even configure the VM to give such a dump when hitting OutOfMemory)
It gives some interesting results. I retrieved a dump from myxwiki.org
and analyzed it a bit
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/download/Admin/MemoryUsage/myxwikiorgmem.png
As the following image shows it, we have a significant amount of memory
in the velocity package in a structure meant to store all velocity macros.
It's 170Mb which represents 37% of the heap and which is more than the
document size.
I suspect that if we are able to achieve this amount we can achieve more
and reach OutOfMemory with only this module.
There is a chance that it is linked to MultiWiki usage where macros are
kept in a different context for each wiki, but it could be also
something growing regularly every time a macro is found in a page.
Even if it is growing by number of wikis, it is still potentially a
scalability issue. I already analyzed memory a long time ago and did not
see Velocity as storing a lot of information. This could be linked to
the new implementation in component mode.
Velocity+JBoss cache seem to hold at least 70% of the consumed heap.
This is clearly the area to focus on and verify that we can keep it in
control.
Ludovic
Le 07/05/10 16:50, Ludovic Dubost a écrit :
Hi developers,
A while ago I was looking for some ways to track how much memory is
used by our internal cache and was not able to find anything.
I've tried it again and this time I found the following code:
http://www.javamex.com/classmexer/
This requires a simple instrumentation to work, but I was able to get
some results out of it to measure the size of our documents in cache.
You can see the result on a personal server:
Measuring one page:
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/view/Admin/MemoryUsage
Measuring all pages in cache:
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/view/Admin/MemoryUsage?page=all
The first results I can see, is that with no surprise the items taking
most memory are:
- attachment content
- attachment archive
- archive
What I was able to see is that as expected these fields won't consume
memory until we are asking for the data.
And after a while, the memory is indeed discarded for these fields, so
the usage of SoftReferences for them seem to work.
Now what I can see is that the attachment archive can be very very
very costly in memory.
Also it does not seem clear how the memory from these fields is
garbage collected (a GC did not recover it).
With some experience of massive loading of attachments that lead to
OutOfMemory errors in the server, I do suspect that the SoftReferences
are not necessarly discarded fast enough to avoid the OutOfMemory. I
also believe that a search engine that is walking all our pages
including our archive pages can genearate important memory usage that
could lead to problems. But this is only an intuition that needs to be
proved.
I believe we need to run some testing under stress to see if the cache
and memory usage do behave properly and if the cache(s) are never able
to go over the memory usage.
We also should try the classmexer on servers that are heavily used an
be able to look at the memory usage and see if we are "controling" it.
I'm not 100% sure how intrusive the "instrumentation" module is but I
believe it's quite light.
We could try it on xwiki.org or on myxwiki.org.
WDYT ?
Ludovic
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16 May
16 May
2:32 p.m.
Indeed very interesting. Here are the results for myxwiki.org
2 engines (default and one for Velocity engine: skins/albatross/macros.vm)
703 and 5 namespaces in each engine
3477 macros total (I added a total counter)
I found by looking at it a bad use case. On my blog (which runs on
myxwiki.org) I have a panel which is in syntax 1.0 calling in
includeInContext which has a macro definition which it uses iteself.
It seems this generates one namespace per page using the panel.
This accounts for 1200 of the macros in the 3477 just for my blog
(ludovic.org) which has a custom panel.
But this case is also present on other blogs running on myxwiki.org
(vincent's for instance) which use XWiki's Blog.
Here is an output:
ludovic-3:myxwikiorg ludovic$ grep "massol:" velo.txt
Namespace: massol:Blog.MovingBlog (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.SVNSearch (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.BlogScripts (1 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.Migration (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.WikiVsCmsUsi2009 (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.Open Source (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.XWikiStats200901 (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:XWiki.eirbjo (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Main.WebHome (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.BlogTemplate (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.ParisJUGSecondAnniversary (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:XWiki.DefaultSkin (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.OSSGTPSoireeOpenSource (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.WebHome (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.XWikiSASAndOpenSource (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.Personal Events (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.Archive (45 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.BlogRss (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.XWikiAtJazoon2009 (42 entries)
42 blog macros are loaded in their own namespace for each page in the
blog that is called.
I believe we have something big here. The namespace system generates a
cache for macros which is not under control. While it might be normal
that there is a different namespace for each page holding macros, there
need to keep this under control.
This namespace should have a limited livespan which should be about the
same as the life of the page in the XWiki Cache. If we could find a way
to remove this namespace from the velocity engine when the document gets
out of the cache this would keep velocity's memory usage under control
Right now it looks like the more pages, the more the velocity engine
macro namespace system will grow indefinitively.
Ludovic
Le 15/05/10 19:53, Caleb James DeLisle a écrit :
170Mb of macros sounds like a leak.
I spent some time trying to figure out how to write the invitation
app more defensively and started looking for the cause of
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-4934
I wrote up a test which dumps all of the names of the working
velocity engines and the namespaces in each engine, the macros in
each namespace and the memory location of the name of the macro
(using identityHashCode which gives the location in most java
implementations). The macro names appear to be interned so counting
references to the memory location in the heap analysis tool should
show any duplicate macro leaks.
{{html clean=false}}<style>p {font-family:monospace;}</style>{{/html}}
{{groovy}}
vf =
com.xpn.xwiki.web.Utils.getComponent(org.xwiki.velocity.VelocityFactory.class);
println(vf.velocityEngines.size());
for (String engineName : vf.velocityEngines.keySet()) {
println("Velocity engine: " + engineName);
vmm =
vf.velocityEngines.get(engineName).engine.ri.vmFactory.vmManager;
println(" Velocity Macro Namespaces:")
for (String x : vmm.namespaceHash.keySet()) {
if (vmm.globalNamespace.equals(vmm.namespaceHash.get(x))) {
println(" Global Macro Namespace: " + x + " (" +
vmm.namespaceHash.get(x).size() + " entries)");
} else {
println(" Namespace: " + x + " (" +
vmm.namespaceHash.get(x).size() + " entries)");
}
for (String y : vmm.namespaceHash.get(x).keySet()) {
print(" #" + y);
for (int i = y.length(); i< 30; i++) {
print(" ");
}
println("java.lang.String@" +
Integer.toString(System.identityHashCode(y), 16));
}
println("\n\n");
}
}
{{/groovy}}
Not much to see on my local installation except that all syntax 2.0
velocity macros are in the same namespace. Might be more interesting
running on a large system.
Caleb
Ludovic Dubost wrote:
--
Ludovic Dubost
Blog:http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki:http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
--
Ludovic Dubost
Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
Hi developers,
It would be great to see some developers be interested in this thread.
We need to better understand memory usage by XWiki in order to achieve
higher throughput with controled memory usage.
I've found an additional interesting tools to use, the Eclipse Memory
Analyzer which works with a dump retrived using the command "jmap
-heap:format=b<processid>"
(This is practical because we can get such a dump on any running VM, and
we can even configure the VM to give such a dump when hitting OutOfMemory)
It gives some interesting results. I retrieved a dump from myxwiki.org
and analyzed it a bit
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/download/Admin/MemoryUsage/myxwikiorgmem.png
As the following image shows it, we have a significant amount of memory
in the velocity package in a structure meant to store all velocity macros.
It's 170Mb which represents 37% of the heap and which is more than the
document size.
I suspect that if we are able to achieve this amount we can achieve more
and reach OutOfMemory with only this module.
There is a chance that it is linked to MultiWiki usage where macros are
kept in a different context for each wiki, but it could be also
something growing regularly every time a macro is found in a page.
Even if it is growing by number of wikis, it is still potentially a
scalability issue. I already analyzed memory a long time ago and did not
see Velocity as storing a lot of information. This could be linked to
the new implementation in component mode.
Velocity+JBoss cache seem to hold at least 70% of the consumed heap.
This is clearly the area to focus on and verify that we can keep it in
control.
Ludovic
Le 07/05/10 16:50, Ludovic Dubost a écrit :
_______________________________________________
devs mailing list
devs(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
Hi developers,
A while ago I was looking for some ways to track how much memory is
used by our internal cache and was not able to find anything.
I've tried it again and this time I found the following code:
http://www.javamex.com/classmexer/
This requires a simple instrumentation to work, but I was able to get
some results out of it to measure the size of our documents in cache.
You can see the result on a personal server:
Measuring one page:
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/view/Admin/MemoryUsage
Measuring all pages in cache:
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/view/Admin/MemoryUsage?page=all
The first results I can see, is that with no surprise the items taking
most memory are:
- attachment content
- attachment archive
- archive
What I was able to see is that as expected these fields won't consume
memory until we are asking for the data.
And after a while, the memory is indeed discarded for these fields, so
the usage of SoftReferences for them seem to work.
Now what I can see is that the attachment archive can be very very
very costly in memory.
Also it does not seem clear how the memory from these fields is
garbage collected (a GC did not recover it).
With some experience of massive loading of attachments that lead to
OutOfMemory errors in the server, I do suspect that the SoftReferences
are not necessarly discarded fast enough to avoid the OutOfMemory. I
also believe that a search engine that is walking all our pages
including our archive pages can genearate important memory usage that
could lead to problems. But this is only an intuition that needs to be
proved.
I believe we need to run some testing under stress to see if the cache
and memory usage do behave properly and if the cache(s) are never able
to go over the memory usage.
We also should try the classmexer on servers that are heavily used an
be able to look at the memory usage and see if we are "controling" it.
I'm not 100% sure how intrusive the "instrumentation" module is but I
believe it's quite light.
We could try it on xwiki.org or on myxwiki.org.
WDYT ?
Ludovic
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18 May
18 May
6:43 a.m.
I guess an immediate answer would be to create a new velocity engine per request
but macros.vm would then be parsed per request which would be a hit to performance.
It would be nice to see macros (and velocity code) parsed and cached with the document
which I think would improve performance over the current setup but the velocity engine
code is resistant to extension so the job means lots or rewriting/copy-paste.
I can take a look at this after I have something to show for invitation, right
now I have to put my full attention there so it progresses at a medium speed
crawl ;)
Caleb
Ludovic Dubost wrote:
Indeed very interesting. Here are the results for myxwiki.org
2 engines (default and one for Velocity engine: skins/albatross/macros.vm)
703 and 5 namespaces in each engine
3477 macros total (I added a total counter)
I found by looking at it a bad use case. On my blog (which runs on
myxwiki.org) I have a panel which is in syntax 1.0 calling in
includeInContext which has a macro definition which it uses iteself.
It seems this generates one namespace per page using the panel.
This accounts for 1200 of the macros in the 3477 just for my blog
(ludovic.org) which has a custom panel.
But this case is also present on other blogs running on myxwiki.org
(vincent's for instance) which use XWiki's Blog.
Here is an output:
ludovic-3:myxwikiorg ludovic$ grep "massol:" velo.txt
Namespace: massol:Blog.MovingBlog (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.SVNSearch (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.BlogScripts (1 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.Migration (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.WikiVsCmsUsi2009 (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.Open Source (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.XWikiStats200901 (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:XWiki.eirbjo (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Main.WebHome (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.BlogTemplate (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.ParisJUGSecondAnniversary (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:XWiki.DefaultSkin (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.OSSGTPSoireeOpenSource (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.WebHome (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.XWikiSASAndOpenSource (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.Personal Events (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.Archive (45 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.BlogRss (42 entries)
Namespace: massol:Blog.XWikiAtJazoon2009 (42 entries)
42 blog macros are loaded in their own namespace for each page in the
blog that is called.
I believe we have something big here. The namespace system generates a
cache for macros which is not under control. While it might be normal
that there is a different namespace for each page holding macros, there
need to keep this under control.
This namespace should have a limited livespan which should be about the
same as the life of the page in the XWiki Cache. If we could find a way
to remove this namespace from the velocity engine when the document gets
out of the cache this would keep velocity's memory usage under control
Right now it looks like the more pages, the more the velocity engine
macro namespace system will grow indefinitively.
Ludovic
Le 15/05/10 19:53, Caleb James DeLisle a écrit :
170Mb of macros sounds like a leak.
I spent some time trying to figure out how to write the invitation
app more defensively and started looking for the cause of
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-4934
I wrote up a test which dumps all of the names of the working
velocity engines and the namespaces in each engine, the macros in
each namespace and the memory location of the name of the macro
(using identityHashCode which gives the location in most java
implementations). The macro names appear to be interned so counting
references to the memory location in the heap analysis tool should
show any duplicate macro leaks.
{{html clean=false}}<style>p {font-family:monospace;}</style>{{/html}}
{{groovy}}
vf =
com.xpn.xwiki.web.Utils.getComponent(org.xwiki.velocity.VelocityFactory.class);
println(vf.velocityEngines.size());
for (String engineName : vf.velocityEngines.keySet()) {
println("Velocity engine: " + engineName);
vmm =
vf.velocityEngines.get(engineName).engine.ri.vmFactory.vmManager;
println(" Velocity Macro Namespaces:")
for (String x : vmm.namespaceHash.keySet()) {
if (vmm.globalNamespace.equals(vmm.namespaceHash.get(x))) {
println(" Global Macro Namespace: " + x + " (" +
vmm.namespaceHash.get(x).size() + " entries)");
} else {
println(" Namespace: " + x + " (" +
vmm.namespaceHash.get(x).size() + " entries)");
}
for (String y : vmm.namespaceHash.get(x).keySet()) {
print(" #" + y);
for (int i = y.length(); i < 30; i++) {
print(" ");
}
println("java.lang.String@" +
Integer.toString(System.identityHashCode(y), 16));
}
println("\n\n");
}
}
{{/groovy}}
Not much to see on my local installation except that all syntax 2.0
velocity macros are in the same namespace. Might be more interesting
running on a large system.
Caleb
Ludovic Dubost wrote:
--
Ludovic Dubost
Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
--
Ludovic Dubost
Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
Hi developers,
It would be great to see some developers be interested in this thread.
We need to better understand memory usage by XWiki in order to achieve
higher throughput with controled memory usage.
I've found an additional interesting tools to use, the Eclipse Memory
Analyzer which works with a dump retrived using the command "jmap
-heap:format=b <processid>"
(This is practical because we can get such a dump on any running VM, and
we can even configure the VM to give such a dump when hitting OutOfMemory)
It gives some interesting results. I retrieved a dump from myxwiki.org
and analyzed it a bit
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/download/Admin/MemoryUsage/myxwikiorgmem.png
As the following image shows it, we have a significant amount of memory
in the velocity package in a structure meant to store all velocity macros.
It's 170Mb which represents 37% of the heap and which is more than the
document size.
I suspect that if we are able to achieve this amount we can achieve more
and reach OutOfMemory with only this module.
There is a chance that it is linked to MultiWiki usage where macros are
kept in a different context for each wiki, but it could be also
something growing regularly every time a macro is found in a page.
Even if it is growing by number of wikis, it is still potentially a
scalability issue. I already analyzed memory a long time ago and did not
see Velocity as storing a lot of information. This could be linked to
the new implementation in component mode.
Velocity+JBoss cache seem to hold at least 70% of the consumed heap.
This is clearly the area to focus on and verify that we can keep it in
control.
Ludovic
Le 07/05/10 16:50, Ludovic Dubost a écrit :
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Hi developers,
A while ago I was looking for some ways to track how much memory is
used by our internal cache and was not able to find anything.
I've tried it again and this time I found the following code:
http://www.javamex.com/classmexer/
This requires a simple instrumentation to work, but I was able to get
some results out of it to measure the size of our documents in cache.
You can see the result on a personal server:
Measuring one page:
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/view/Admin/MemoryUsage
Measuring all pages in cache:
http://www.zapnews.tv/xwiki/bin/view/Admin/MemoryUsage?page=all
The first results I can see, is that with no surprise the items taking
most memory are:
- attachment content
- attachment archive
- archive
What I was able to see is that as expected these fields won't consume
memory until we are asking for the data.
And after a while, the memory is indeed discarded for these fields, so
the usage of SoftReferences for them seem to work.
Now what I can see is that the attachment archive can be very very
very costly in memory.
Also it does not seem clear how the memory from these fields is
garbage collected (a GC did not recover it).
With some experience of massive loading of attachments that lead to
OutOfMemory errors in the server, I do suspect that the SoftReferences
are not necessarly discarded fast enough to avoid the OutOfMemory. I
also believe that a search engine that is walking all our pages
including our archive pages can genearate important memory usage that
could lead to problems. But this is only an intuition that needs to be
proved.
I believe we need to run some testing under stress to see if the cache
and memory usage do behave properly and if the cache(s) are never able
to go over the memory usage.
We also should try the classmexer on servers that are heavily used an
be able to look at the memory usage and see if we are "controling" it.
I'm not 100% sure how intrusive the "instrumentation" module is but I
believe it's quite light.
We could try it on xwiki.org or on myxwiki.org.
WDYT ?
Ludovic
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