1 Dec
2009
1 Dec
'09
4:28 p.m.
Hi all,
Since i finished a first POC, I would like to introduce a new XML
based syntax. the goal is to provide an easy to parse exact mapping of
the rendering events.
You can look at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax
for more details.
Would be great to have comments about this.
The main things to discuss are:
- what XML syntax exactly
(http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#HProposedformat)
- what syntax identifier
(http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#Hfindagoodsyntaxidenti…)
The first use case for this is the support of generic markers in
XHTML: instead of having specialized macro marker in XHTML comment
serialized in a generic, easy to parse and exact repesentation of a
XDOM branch that as been replaced by something else during a
transformations.
So WDYT ?
--
Thomas
1 Dec
1 Dec
4:37 p.m.
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 16:28, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Since i finished a first POC, I would like to introduce a new XML
Attached to http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-4237
based syntax. the goal is to provide an easy to parse
exact mapping of
the rendering events.
You can look at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax
for more details.
Would be great to have comments about this.
The main things to discuss are:
- what XML syntax exactly
(http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#HProposedformat)
- what syntax identifier
(http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#Hfindagoodsyntaxidenti…)
The first use case for this is the support of generic markers in
XHTML: instead of having specialized macro marker in XHTML comment
serialized in a generic, easy to parse and exact repesentation of a
XDOM branch that as been replaced by something else during a
transformations.
So WDYT ?
--
Thomas
--
Thomas Mortagne
4:49 p.m.
On Dec 1, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Hi all,
Since i finished a first POC, I would like to introduce a new XML
based syntax. the goal is to provide an easy to parse exact mapping of
the rendering events.
You can look at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax
for more details.
Would be great to have comments about this.
The main things to discuss are:
- what XML syntax exactly
(http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#HProposedformat)
Just a remark, why not using names for parameters?
This would make the format more robust wrt evolutions.
Currently the order introduces a stronger coupling with the beginEvent semantics for a
given event.
Using names, this would not be the case anymore (and as a side effect debugging would be
easier).
-Fabio
5:41 p.m.
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 16:49, Fabio Mancinelli
<fabio.mancinelli(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Dec 1, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
I hesitated but as i said in the proposal, having names also mean
having mapping between this name and where is it in the event, mapping
which does not exist currently.
Note that parameters are not internal implementation details, it's a
public API used by both parsers and renderers so changing it is not
that easy.
I agree that adding the name information could be useful but it makes
parser and the renderer doing more logic and make the format more
verbose (it would be the first "in case of" information in the format)
and I'm not sure it's really needed. From technical POV, it just make
possible to randomize parameters instead of always have them in the
same order.
I'm 50/50 on this, if others think it's really important i can start
to introduce more information in EventType enum.
Hi all,
Since i finished a first POC, I would like to introduce a new XML
based syntax. the goal is to provide an easy to parse exact mapping of
the rendering events.
You can look at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax
for more details.
Would be great to have comments about this.
The main things to discuss are:
- what XML syntax exactly
(http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#HProposedformat)
Just a remark, why not using names for parameters?
This would make the format more robust wrt evolutions.
Currently the order introduces a stronger coupling with the beginEvent semantics for a
given event.
Using names, this would not be the case anymore (and as a side effect debugging would be
easier).
-Fabio
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5:51 p.m.
Thomas,
I am positive it seems to be a useful thing!
Two thoughts:
- do you do a mapping java <-> schema in a somewhat automated manner?
I would urge you to do this so as to maintain one single documentable
code base. things like xsddoc have a chance for documentation maybe?
- do you have already a full (de-)serialization and another
implementation that would either produce or consume that XML? All of
these things may affect your format thoughts.
paul
Le 01-déc.-09 à 16:28, Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
Hi all,
Since i finished a first POC, I would like to introduce a new XML
based syntax. the goal is to provide an easy to parse exact mapping of
the rendering events.
You can look at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax
for more details.
Would be great to have comments about this.
The main things to discuss are:
- what XML syntax exactly
(http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#HProposedformat)
- what syntax identifier
(http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#Hfindagoodsyntaxidenti…
)
The first use case for this is the support of generic markers in
XHTML: instead of having specialized macro marker in XHTML comment
serialized in a generic, easy to parse and exact repesentation of a
XDOM branch that as been replaced by something else during a
transformations.
So WDYT ?
--
Thomas
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6 p.m.
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 17:51, Paul Libbrecht <paul(a)activemath.org> wrote:
Thomas,
I am positive it seems to be a useful thing!
Two thoughts:
- do you do a mapping java <-> schema in a somewhat automated manner? I
would urge you to do this so as to maintain one single documentable code
base. things like xsddoc have a chance for documentation maybe?
Yes. See http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-4237 and
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#HProposedformat
for details related to this proposal.
- do you have already a full (de-)serialization and another implementation
that would either produce or consume that XML? All of these things may
affect your format thoughts.
You can find full streaming and block parsers and renderers
implementations (for the format described in
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#HProposedformat)
in http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-4237.
paul
Le 01-déc.-09 à 16:28, Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
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Thomas Mortagne
Hi all,
Since i finished a first POC, I would like to introduce a new XML
based syntax. the goal is to provide an easy to parse exact mapping of
the rendering events.
You can look at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax
for more details.
Would be great to have comments about this.
The main things to discuss are:
- what XML syntax exactly
(http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#HProposedformat)
- what syntax identifier
(http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/xmlsyntax#Hfindagoodsyntaxidenti…)
The first use case for this is the support of generic markers in
XHTML: instead of having specialized macro marker in XHTML comment
serialized in a generic, easy to parse and exact repesentation of a
XDOM branch that as been replaced by something else during a
transformations.
So WDYT ?
--
Thomas
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