14 Feb
2008
14 Feb
'08
1:53 p.m.
Hi,
I'd like to propose moving the title field in edit mode to the side,
in the information panel, just before the Parent field. We have
already parent and tags there and the title would fit nicely there.
The main reason for this is to clear up more space for the main
content edition. It's also more consistent to put the page metadata
together on the side (which has a lot of unused space).
Here's my +1
Thanks
-Vincent
PS: It really helps in Toucan skin to have that title field on the
side since a major theme of Toucan is to simplify the interface and
provide more space for the content.
3:14 p.m.
+1
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to propose moving the title field in edit mode to the side,
in the information panel, just before the Parent field. We have
already parent and tags there and the title would fit nicely there.
The main reason for this is to clear up more space for the main
content edition. It's also more consistent to put the page metadata
together on the side (which has a lot of unused space).
Here's my +1
Thanks
-Vincent
PS: It really helps in Toucan skin to have that title field on the
side since a major theme of Toucan is to simplify the interface and
provide more space for the content.
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15 Feb
15 Feb
2:11 a.m.
Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to propose moving the title field in edit mode to the side,
in the information panel, just before the Parent field. We have
already parent and tags there and the title would fit nicely there.
The main reason for this is to clear up more space for the main
content edition. It's also more consistent to put the page metadata
together on the side (which has a lot of unused space).
Here's my +1
Thanks
-Vincent
PS: It really helps in Toucan skin to have that title field on the
side since a major theme of Toucan is to simplify the interface and
provide more space for the content.
-0
I think the title field is a bit more important than the other metadata
fields, and it deserves some more space. It also encourages people to
write document titles, thus giving more structure to the data.
I'd say it should stay where it is. More, I say it should be
automatically inserted in the content, like it happens in MediaWiki, and
it should have a greater importance in the Lucene result score.
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Sergiu Dumitriu
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11:25 a.m.
Hi,
-0
I think the title field is a bit more important than the other metadata
fields, and it deserves some more space. It also encourages people to
write document titles, thus giving more structure to the data.
I'd say it should stay where it is. More, I say it should be
automatically inserted in the content, like it happens in MediaWiki, and
it should have a greater importance in the Lucene result score.
I agree with Sergiu on the fact that a title is more important than other
kind of document metadata. From my POW, automatically displaying a
document's title would be more interesting than putting it away and in fine
relying on 1 headers to dislay page titles.
In fact, in order to lake the title field more relevant I would even put it
closer to the content than it is now, between the tabs and the textarea
instead of above the tabs in order to make it more relevant.
WDYT ?
Guillaume
1:24 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Move the title field to the Document Information panel
Hi,
I'm 0 too, IMHO it would make it both less visible and less usable
(smaller field). I agree with Sergiu & Guillaume's : we need to find ways
to encourage users to enter titles.
Jerome.
-0
I think the title field is a bit more important than the other metadata
fields, and it deserves some more space. It also encourages people to
write document titles, thus giving more structure to the data.
I'd say it should stay where it is. More, I say it should be
automatically inserted in the content, like it happens in MediaWiki, and
it should have a greater importance in the Lucene result score.
I agree with Sergiu on the fact that a title is more important than other
kind of document metadata. From my POW, automatically displaying a
document's title would be more interesting than putting it away and in
fine
relying on 1 headers to dislay page titles.
In fact, in order to lake the title field more relevant I would even put
it
closer to the content than it is now, between the tabs and the textarea
instead of above the tabs in order to make it more relevant.
WDYT ?
Guillaume
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New subject: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Move the title field to the Document Information panel
Hi Sergiu,
On Feb 15, 2008, at 2:11 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
[snip]
I think the title field is a bit more important than
the other
metadata
fields, and it deserves some more space. It also encourages people to
write document titles, thus giving more structure to the data.
I'm not sure why writing document titles explicitely is a good thing.
I view it as an impediment. When I write docs with XWiki I don't have
to bother with titles since the title matches my level 1 title. It's a
more natural flow when writing documentation.
I think what we have in xwiki is better than what exist in other wikis
where users have to explicitely enter titles.
However there are some cases when the computed title isn't right (for
example when you put some velocity in titles or when titles are
computed as part of some scripting construct). For those odd cases
it's good to have a title field override and it makes sense to have
that in the metadata.
I'd say it should stay where it is. More, I say it
should be
automatically inserted in the content, like it happens in MediaWiki,
I don't like this too much. While it's good to be consistent with
other wikis I think xwiki is more advanced in this domain so it's pity
to loose that.
The fact that xwiki can auto-generate valid titles in 99% of cases is
a really big plus IMO. The other wikis will use the document name as
the title I guess which is way less good than what we have.
and
it should have a greater importance in the Lucene result score.
This is agree :)
Thanks
-Vincent
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Thomas Mortagne -
Vincent Massol