3 May
2010
3 May
'10
5:40 a.m.
I was just wondering what browsers do we support? Is this written down somewhere?
I assume we do not support browsers with script turned off since menus and the admin app
require script.
Are there multiple levels of support? For example: more browsers supported for guests
viewing than
administrators or some browsers must have all functionality but can have ugly UI?
Thanks
Caleb
3 May
3 May
8:33 a.m.
On May 3, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
I was just wondering what browsers do we support? Is
this written down somewhere?
I assume we do not support browsers with script turned off since menus and the admin app
require script.
Are there multiple levels of support? For example: more browsers supported for guests
viewing than
administrators or some browsers must have all functionality but can have ugly UI?
The list of supported browsers is listed in the WYSIWYG page but I agree we should have it
as a global requirements so I've copied it from
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/WysiwygEditor to
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation
We should share the list between both locations, maybe with an anchor and a link from the
wysiwyg page to the requirement section?
Thanks
-Vincent
9:38 a.m.
"The WYSIWYG editor is currently supported in Firefox 2.x and 3.x as well as
Internet Explorer 6.x, 7.x and 8.x."
Is there plans to extends support to other major browser, especially those
that are Webkit based, like Safari or Chrome ?
Do we know what are the issues or critical point that makes this limitation
?
Denis
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 08:33, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On May 3, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
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I was just wondering what browsers do we support?
Is this written down
somewhere?
I assume we do not support browsers with script
turned off since menus
and the admin app require script.
Are there multiple levels of support? For
example: more browsers
supported for guests viewing than
administrators or some browsers must have all
functionality but can have
ugly UI?
The list of supported browsers is listed in the WYSIWYG page but I agree we
should have it as a global requirements so I've copied it from
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/WysiwygEditor to
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation
We should share the list between both locations, maybe with an anchor and a
link from the wysiwyg page to the requirement section?
Thanks
-Vincent
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10:01 a.m.
Hi Denis,
On May 3, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
"The WYSIWYG editor is currently supported in
Firefox 2.x and 3.x as well as
Internet Explorer 6.x, 7.x and 8.x."
You should refresh ;)
It now says:
"
The WYSIWYG editor is currently supported in the following browsers:
• Firefox 2.x
• Firefox 3.x
• Internet Explorer 6.x
• Internet Explorer 7.x
• Internet Explorer 8.x
Note that Webkit-based browsers (Safari, Chrome, etc) are partially supported and
we're working on fully supporting them.
"
Is there plans to extends support to other major browser, especially those
that are Webkit based, like Safari or Chrome ?
Yes. They're mostly working but not fully. You can check jira to see the open issues.
Do we know what are the issues or critical point that
makes this limitation
?
Yes, see jira, project "xwiki core", component "wysiwyg gwt editor".
Thanks
-Vincent
Denis
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 08:33, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>
> On May 3, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
>
>> I was just wondering what browsers do we support? Is this written down
> somewhere?
>> I assume we do not support browsers with script turned off since menus
> and the admin app require script.
>> Are there multiple levels of support? For example: more browsers
> supported for guests viewing than
>> administrators or some browsers must have all functionality but can have
> ugly UI?
>
> The list of supported browsers is listed in the WYSIWYG page but I agree we
> should have it as a global requirements so I've copied it from
> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/WysiwygEditor to
> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation
>
> We should share the list between both locations, maybe with an anchor and a
> link from the wysiwyg page to the requirement section?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
10:28 a.m.
Hi Denis,
Denis Gervalle wrote:
"The WYSIWYG editor is currently supported in
Firefox 2.x and 3.x as well as
Internet Explorer 6.x, 7.x and 8.x."
Is there plans to extends support to other major
browser, especially those
that are Webkit based, like Safari or Chrome ?
Do we know what are the issues or critical point that makes this limitation
?
See http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-3497 and
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-3839 as well as other specific
issues like http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-4503 . As you can
see they don't have a fix date planned. I'm handling them when I find
the time. We need to decide if it's a priority or not.
Thanks,
Marius
Denis
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 08:33, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On May 3, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Caleb James DeLisle
wrote:
I was just wondering what browsers do we support?
Is this written down
somewhere?
I assume we do not support browsers with script
turned off since menus
and the admin app require script.
Are there multiple levels of support? For
example: more browsers
supported for guests viewing than
administrators or some browsers must have all
functionality but can have
ugly UI?
The list of supported browsers is listed in the WYSIWYG page but I agree we
should have it as a global requirements so I've copied it from
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/WysiwygEditor to
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation
We should share the list between both locations, maybe with an anchor and a
link from the wysiwyg page to the requirement section?
Thanks
-Vincent
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11:27 a.m.
On 05/03/2010 09:38 AM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
"The WYSIWYG editor is currently supported in
Firefox 2.x and 3.x as well as
Internet Explorer 6.x, 7.x and 8.x."
Is there plans to extends support to other major browser, especially those
that are Webkit based, like Safari or Chrome ?
Do we know what are the issues or critical point that makes this limitation
?
It's hard to make an editor work in all browsers, since it uses the
browser's native support for editable content, which was (until HTML5)
completely unspecified, non-standard, non-equivalent in any random pair
of browsers (most times even two versions of the same browser). Marius
is working on this when he finds some free time, but it would be great
if users would contribute some patches, too.
Still, except the WYSIWYG which mostly works in all browsers, we have
full support for almost all browsers, from links and lynx to Chrome
passing through Konqueror and Safari, Firefox, IE (and variants), Opera.
I haven't tested, but probably works in Galleon, too. It looks pretty
much OK in mobile browsers as well, though we need to optimize the skin
for small screens.
Denis
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 08:33, Vincent Massol<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>
> On May 3, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
>
>> I was just wondering what browsers do we support? Is this written down
> somewhere?
>> I assume we do not support browsers with script turned off since menus
> and the admin app require script.
It's supposed to work without scripts, too. The menus need to be fixed,
Flavius had a working prototype but didn't get to finish it yet. What
doesn't work in the Admin app?
So, ideally XWiki should work reasonably well in the following situations:
- without Javascript
- without stylesheets
- without images
- in a text browser
- in a screen reader (not so good at the moment)
Note that we're somewhat committed to be WCAG AA compliant, and we could
also be ATAG compliant soon (almost there). We still need to improve our
ARIA practices.
>> Are there multiple levels of support? For
example: more browsers
> supported for guests viewing than
>> administrators or some browsers must have all functionality but can have
> ugly UI?
>
> The list of supported browsers is listed in the WYSIWYG page but I agree we
> should have it as a global requirements so I've copied it from
> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/WysiwygEditor to
> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation
>
> We should share the list between both locations, maybe with an anchor and a
> link from the wysiwyg page to the requirement section?
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
11:33 a.m.
On May 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
On 05/03/2010 09:38 AM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
Maybe it's worth mentioning this in the pre-requisite section on
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HPrerequis… ?
Thanks
-Vincent
"The WYSIWYG editor is currently supported
in Firefox 2.x and 3.x as well as
Internet Explorer 6.x, 7.x and 8.x."
Is there plans to extends support to other major browser, especially those
that are Webkit based, like Safari or Chrome ?
Do we know what are the issues or critical point that makes this limitation
?
It's hard to make an editor work in all browsers, since it uses the
browser's native support for editable content, which was (until HTML5)
completely unspecified, non-standard, non-equivalent in any random pair
of browsers (most times even two versions of the same browser). Marius
is working on this when he finds some free time, but it would be great
if users would contribute some patches, too.
Still, except the WYSIWYG which mostly works in all browsers, we have
full support for almost all browsers, from links and lynx to Chrome
passing through Konqueror and Safari, Firefox, IE (and variants), Opera.
I haven't tested, but probably works in Galleon, too. It looks pretty
much OK in mobile browsers as well, though we need to optimize the skin
for small screens. Denis
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 08:33, Vincent Massol<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>
> On May 3, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
>
>> I was just wondering what browsers do we support? Is this written down
> somewhere?
>> I assume we do not support browsers with script turned off since menus
> and the admin app require script.
It's supposed to work without scripts, too. The menus need to be fixed,
Flavius had a working prototype but didn't get to finish it yet. What
doesn't work in the Admin app?
So, ideally XWiki should work reasonably well in the following situations:
- without Javascript
- without stylesheets
- without images
- in a text browser
- in a screen reader (not so good at the moment)
Note that we're somewhat committed to be WCAG AA compliant, and we could
also be ATAG compliant soon (almost there). We still need to improve our
ARIA practices.
>>> Are there multiple levels of support? For example: more browsers
>> supported for guests viewing than
>>> administrators or some browsers must have all functionality but can have
>> ugly UI?
>>
>> The list of supported browsers is listed in the WYSIWYG page but I agree we
>> should have it as a global requirements so I've copied it from
>> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/WysiwygEditor to
>> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation
>>
>> We should share the list between both locations, maybe with an anchor and a
>> link from the wysiwyg page to the requirement section?
9:40 a.m.
On May 3, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On May 3, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
ok I've done the sharing using an include.
Thanks
-Vincent
I was just wondering what browsers do we support?
Is this written down somewhere?
I assume we do not support browsers with script turned off since menus and the admin app
require script.
Are there multiple levels of support? For example: more browsers supported for guests
viewing than
administrators or some browsers must have all functionality but can have ugly UI?
The list of supported browsers is listed in the WYSIWYG page but I agree we should have
it as a global requirements so I've copied it from
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/WysiwygEditor to
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation
We should share the list between both locations, maybe with an anchor and a link from the
wysiwyg page to the requirement section?
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