I forgot to mention that this means removing the “Idea” issue type in the XWIKI jira project IMO. Thanks -Vincent On 14 Jan 2016 at 11:02:44, vincent(a)massol.net (vincent@massol.net(mailto:vincent@massol.net)) wrote: _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

-0 I think we should just mark correctly issues with 'Idea' instead of 'New feature' like in the example you gave http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-1103 If they are marked correctly then you can easily make a query and reference them to contributors and students. For example this query https://jira.xwiki.org/issues/?jql=issuetype%20%3D%20Idea%20AND%20status%20… will list all the open ideas in the Top Level Projects. For example: from the 110 issues opened, there are: 83 on Platform (13 on Templates, 5 on Model, 4 on Rendering, 4 on Flamingo, etc.) 13 on Rendering 7 on Enterprise 5 on Commons 2 on Infrastructure The advantage is that the components and projects are marked correctly and we already did this job and we don't have to move them all in the new project, create new components, etc. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Thomas Mortagne > > wrote: _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

Well why doesn't belong anymore? You could just mark it as "Idea". Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:42 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:

On 14 Jan 2016 at 14:45:26, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (valicac(a)gmail.com (mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote: It’ll never be implemented there because we decided that the repos of the xwiki github org are for core stuff only (see my comment on the issue). So why mislead people into thinking it might be implemented when we know it won’t?

Thanks -Vincent but valicac(a)gmail.com 'New https://jira.xwiki.org/issues/?jql=issuetype%20%3D%20Idea%20AND%20status%20… correctly type in vincent(a)massol.net contain contrib for “Ideas” which are we’d _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

So is this project will contain just Ideas that we can't put somewhere else?

Since I believe is better to have ideas for Forum Application reported in the appropriate project (XAFORUM) and not in the generic Ideas project.

If we know we won't implement them we can close them, although in time we managed to implement the important things. For the record the design.xwiki.org app has an Idea status too so already we are splitting ideas in multiple places.

Thanks, Caty > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:42 PM, vincent(a)massol.net > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Caty, > > > > > > I have probably not expressed myself correctly. The goal is not to list > > > all Ideas :) > > > > > > The goal is that we need to separate stuff that is platform from stuff > > > that is NOT platform. Regarding XWIKI-1103 for example, I’ve closed it > but > > > it’s a pity because 1) it’s not done and 2) it’s a good idea. It just > > > doesn’t belong in the XWIKI JIRA project anymore. > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Vincent > > > > > > > > > On 14 Jan 2016 at 14:39:32, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) ( > valicac(a)gmail.com > > > (mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote: > > > > > > > -0 > > > > > > > > I think we should just mark correctly issues with 'Idea' instead of > 'New > > > > feature' like in the example you gave > > > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-1103 > > > > > > > > If they are marked correctly then you can easily make a query and > > > reference > > > > them to contributors and students. > > > > > > > > For example this query > > > > > > > > https://jira.xwiki.org/issues/?jql=issuetype%20%3D%20Idea%20AND%20status%20… > > > > will list all the open ideas in the Top Level Projects. > > > > > > > > For example: from the 110 issues opened, there are: > > > > 83 on Platform (13 on Templates, 5 on Model, 4 on Rendering, 4 on > > > Flamingo, > > > > etc.) > > > > 13 on Rendering > > > > 7 on Enterprise > > > > 5 on Commons > > > > 2 on Infrastructure > > > > > > > > The advantage is that the components and projects are marked > correctly > > > and > > > > we already did this job and we don't have to move them all in the new > > > > project, create new components, etc. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Caty > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Thomas Mortagne > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure about that, it's still OK to have idea in XWIKI jira > > > > > project as long as the idea is specifically about core stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:25 AM, vincent(a)massol.net > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I forgot to mention that this means removing the “Idea” issue > type in > > > > > the XWIKI jira project IMO. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > -Vincent > > > > > > > > > > > > On 14 Jan 2016 at 11:02:44, vincent(a)massol.net ( > vincent(a)massol.net > > > > > (mailto:vincent@massol.net)) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi devs, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Since we’ve decided that the xwiki github organization will > contain > > > > > only core extensions and that we want to move non-core extensions > > > outside > > > > > (most likely to the contrib github organization), and since in > contrib > > > each > > > > > project has its own jira project, I think we need a jira project > for > > > people > > > > > to propose ideas. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Of course we could also have installed the Idea app ( > > > > > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Ideas) on > > > xwiki.org > > > > > but since we manager our issues with JIRA we’d have to copy them to > > > jira > > > > > anyway. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> So my proposal is to create a top level JIRA project called > “Ideas” > > > and > > > > > to document it on > > > > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Contributing. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> This will also allow us to move issues such as > > > > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-1103 (Bookmarks feature), > which are > > > > > currently in the XWIKI JIRA project to the Ideas project and can be > > > used as > > > > > a place where contributors or GSOC students can get ideas from. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Of course if someone suggest an idea that is something core, > we’d > > > move > > > > > it to the XWIKI Jira project ourselves. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> WDYT? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > >> -Vincent

+1 for B) On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:56 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote: (mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote: in the issue). So it we already dev.xwiki.org but since it’s been moved and renamed it’s no longer about ideas but about designs (ie the next step, once you start working on an idea). project for letting users add new ideas (note that we’re going in the direction of trying to remove it by having each contrib project have its own jira but we could keep the Contrib JIRA project with a single issue type of type Idea). simpler for users to find and report into. It would be our job (our = the xwiki community) to then move those jiras to existing projects (when they exist). maybe users will wonder why the 2 places. keep the Idea issue type in existing jira projects): http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-1103 (Bookmarks feature) It's a pity to close things like this. Having a place to find ideas of things to contribute to XWiki would be great. move XWIKI-1103 to it. This is my preference by far. move XWIKI-1103 to it. "Ideas" named project is much more explicit plus ideas would be messed with various dead contrib extension issues. We need to empty this Contrib project and get rid of it. currently ask users to create a jira issue, after they discuss it on the list. IMO design.xwiki.org is not here to suggest ideas but it's the next step. When you start having more details about how the idea should look like and be implemented. to edit and add their ideas. -1, too painfull Ideas application is nice but I feel that those ideas will end up in jira eventually anyway and jira is THE place to report stuff (stuff that dn't work, stuff you would like to see implemented, etc.). associated jira issue. to list stuff closed it just instead of and https://jira.xwiki.org/issues/?jql=issuetype%20%3D%20Idea%20AND%20status%20… on the new jira issue extensions project on them to can be from. core, -- Thomas Mortagne _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs