17 Oct
2012
17 Oct
'12
7:12 a.m.
Hi guys,
I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which was developed as part
of wiki/3.0.
It is now installable as an extension. It's still a bit rough around the edges but
it's pretty safe to
play with so everyone is invited to give it a try.
* Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their changes are merged
in real time.
* The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki so it
won't break existing editors.
* Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file, removal is simply
deleting 2 XDocuments.
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the extension wiki page
and on the
github bug tracker.
Thanks,
Caleb
17 Oct
17 Oct
8:57 a.m.
Hi Caleb,
What a nice morning treat! :)
I'll check it out later today.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which was developed as part
of wiki/3.0.
It is now installable as an extension. It's still a bit rough around the edges but
it's pretty safe to
play with so everyone is invited to give it a try.
* Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their changes are merged
in real time.
* The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki so it
won't break existing editors.
* Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file, removal is simply
deleting 2 XDocuments.
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the extension wiki
page and on the
github bug tracker.
Thanks,
Caleb
12:04 p.m.
Hi Caleb,
Ok I've played with it, very cool! :)
Some next steps:
* Make it a real extension installable with the Extension Manager:
** Move the project to xwiki-contrib and release a first 1.0 version of the JAR and XAR in
the xwiki maven repo for contrib
Slightly later:
* Add an Extension Point for the Edit menu and transform the JS Skin extension into a UI
Extension
Of course in term of the editor itself there are a few things to improve. Some ideas:
* Release the lock only when all the editors have either cancelled or saved the document
so that someone who edits in wiki mode gets a lock dialog box if someone is still editing
it
* See who's editing + colors to differentiate users
* Use a textarea similar to the wiki editor one (no line number, same font, etc)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caleb,
What a nice morning treat! :)
I'll check it out later today.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which was developed as
part of wiki/3.0.
> It is now installable as an extension. It's still a bit rough around the edges
but it's pretty safe to
> play with so everyone is invited to give it a try.
>
> * Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their changes are
merged in real time.
>
> * The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki so it
won't break existing editors.
>
> * Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file, removal is
simply deleting 2 XDocuments.
>
>
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
>
>
> Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the extension wiki
page and on the
> github bug tracker.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Caleb
12:10 p.m.
Hey Caleb,
this is really good news.
Once it gets somewhat confirmed I intend to use it in projects where I have friends who
are bothered by the license of Google docs. There's a growing awareness of these
issues and it would be interesting to advertise it.
paul
Le 17 oct. 2012 à 11:04, Vincent Massol a écrit :
Hi Caleb,
Ok I've played with it, very cool! :)
Some next steps:
* Make it a real extension installable with the Extension Manager:
** Move the project to xwiki-contrib and release a first 1.0 version of the JAR and XAR
in the xwiki maven repo for contrib
Slightly later:
* Add an Extension Point for the Edit menu and transform the JS Skin extension into a UI
Extension
Of course in term of the editor itself there are a few things to improve. Some ideas:
* Release the lock only when all the editors have either cancelled or saved the document
so that someone who edits in wiki mode gets a lock dialog box if someone is still editing
it
* See who's editing + colors to differentiate users
* Use a textarea similar to the wiki editor one (no line number, same font, etc)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caleb,
What a nice morning treat! :)
I'll check it out later today.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which was developed as
part of wiki/3.0.
> It is now installable as an extension. It's still a bit rough around the edges
but it's pretty safe to
> play with so everyone is invited to give it a try.
>
> * Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their changes are
merged in real time.
>
> * The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki so it
won't break existing editors.
>
> * Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file, removal is
simply deleting 2 XDocuments.
>
>
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
>
>
> Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the extension wiki
page and on the
> github bug tracker.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Caleb
_______________________________________________
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs 
12:11 p.m.
Hi Caleb,
This is great progress ! Way to go.
Some improvements, sorted by priority from my POV:
- Support real-time editing on an object Textarea field
- The current textarea does not allow to do a select All of the text
- XEM compatibility either as an extension for the global wiki, or as a
template based install (right now you have to install the XAR in each wiki)
- Install through extension manager
- See who's editing
- Auto-saving
- Handling merging if there has been a concurrent editing
- Support a live switch from wiki editing to real-time editing
Ludovic
2012/10/17 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
Hi Caleb,
Ok I've played with it, very cool! :)
Some next steps:
* Make it a real extension installable with the Extension Manager:
** Move the project to xwiki-contrib and release a first 1.0 version of
the JAR and XAR in the xwiki maven repo for contrib
Slightly later:
* Add an Extension Point for the Edit menu and transform the JS Skin
extension into a UI Extension
Of course in term of the editor itself there are a few things to improve.
Some ideas:
* Release the lock only when all the editors have either cancelled or
saved the document so that someone who edits in wiki mode gets a lock
dialog box if someone is still editing it
* See who's editing + colors to differentiate users
* Use a textarea similar to the wiki editor one (no line number, same
font, etc)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
--
Ludovic Dubost
Founder and CEO
Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
Hi Caleb,
What a nice morning treat! :)
I'll check it out later today.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <
calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com>
wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which was
developed as part of wiki/3.0.
> It is now installable as an extension.
It's still a bit rough around
the edges but it's pretty safe to
> play with so everyone is invited to give it a
try.
>
> * Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their
changes
are merged in real time.
>
> * The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki
so it won't break existing editors.
>
> * Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file,
removal
is simply deleting 2 XDocuments.
>
>
>
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
>
>
> Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the
extension wiki page and on the
> github bug tracker.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Caleb
_______________________________________________
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devs(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
12:12 p.m.
Also a screenshot on the extension page, so that we can advertise it on
twitter :)
2012/10/17 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com>
Hi Caleb,
This is great progress ! Way to go.
Some improvements, sorted by priority from my POV:
- Support real-time editing on an object Textarea field
- The current textarea does not allow to do a select All of the text
- XEM compatibility either as an extension for the global wiki, or as a
template based install (right now you have to install the XAR in each wiki)
- Install through extension manager
- See who's editing
- Auto-saving
- Handling merging if there has been a concurrent editing
- Support a live switch from wiki editing to real-time editing
Ludovic
2012/10/17 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
--
Ludovic Dubost
Founder and CEO
Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
Hi Caleb,
Ok I've played with it, very cool! :)
Some next steps:
* Make it a real extension installable with the Extension Manager:
** Move the project to xwiki-contrib and release a first 1.0 version of
the JAR and XAR in the xwiki maven repo for contrib
Slightly later:
* Add an Extension Point for the Edit menu and transform the JS Skin
extension into a UI Extension
Of course in term of the editor itself there are a few things to improve.
Some ideas:
* Release the lock only when all the editors have either cancelled or
saved the document so that someone who edits in wiki mode gets a lock
dialog box if someone is still editing it
* See who's editing + colors to differentiate users
* Use a textarea similar to the wiki editor one (no line number, same
font, etc)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
--
Ludovic Dubost
Founder and CEO
Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
Hi Caleb,
What a nice morning treat! :)
I'll check it out later today.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <
calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com>
wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which
was
developed as part of wiki/3.0.
> It is now installable as an extension.
It's still a bit rough around
the edges but it's pretty safe to
> play with so everyone is invited to give it a
try.
>
> * Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their
changes
are merged in real time.
>
> * The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki
so it won't break existing editors.
>
> * Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file,
removal
is simply deleting 2 XDocuments.
>
>
>
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
>
>
> Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the
extension wiki page and on the
> github bug tracker.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Caleb
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23 Oct
23 Oct
4:19 a.m.
Done.
Thanks,
Caleb
On 10/17/2012 06:12 AM, Ludovic Dubost wrote:
Also a screenshot on the extension page, so that we
can advertise it on
twitter :)
2012/10/17 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com>
Hi Caleb,
This is great progress ! Way to go.
Some improvements, sorted by priority from my POV:
- Support real-time editing on an object Textarea field
- The current textarea does not allow to do a select All of the text
- XEM compatibility either as an extension for the global wiki, or as a
template based install (right now you have to install the XAR in each wiki)
- Install through extension manager
- See who's editing
- Auto-saving
- Handling merging if there has been a concurrent editing
- Support a live switch from wiki editing to real-time editing
Ludovic
2012/10/17 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
Hi Caleb,
Ok I've played with it, very cool! :)
Some next steps:
* Make it a real extension installable with the Extension Manager:
** Move the project to xwiki-contrib and release a first 1.0 version of
the JAR and XAR in the xwiki maven repo for contrib
Slightly later:
* Add an Extension Point for the Edit menu and transform the JS Skin
extension into a UI Extension
Of course in term of the editor itself there are a few things to improve.
Some ideas:
* Release the lock only when all the editors have either cancelled or
saved the document so that someone who edits in wiki mode gets a lock
dialog box if someone is still editing it
* See who's editing + colors to differentiate users
* Use a textarea similar to the wiki editor one (no line number, same
font, etc)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
--
Ludovic Dubost
Founder and CEO
Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
Hi Caleb,
What a nice morning treat! :)
I'll check it out later today.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <
calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com>
wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which
was
developed as part of wiki/3.0.
> It is now installable as an extension.
It's still a bit rough around
the edges but it's pretty safe to
> play with so everyone is invited to give it a
try.
>
> * Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their
changes
are merged in real time.
>
> * The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki
so it won't break existing editors.
>
> * Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file,
removal
is simply deleting 2 XDocuments.
>
>
>
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
>
>
> Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the
extension wiki page and on the
> github bug tracker.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Caleb
_______________________________________________
devs mailing list
devs(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
17 Oct
17 Oct
12:53 p.m.
Hi again,
There is a serious bug which makes the wysiwyg editor fail because the Rt
code loads on wysiwyg.
With the code in the JS Extension
var isRealtimeMode = function() {
return (window.location.hash == '#RealTime');
};
#if ("$!request.lazy" != "true")
if (isRealtimeMode()) {
Rt.load();
}
It allows to avoid loading conflicting code when in wysiwyg.
Ludovic
2012/10/17 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com>
Hi Caleb,
This is great progress ! Way to go.
Some improvements, sorted by priority from my POV:
- Support real-time editing on an object Textarea field
- The current textarea does not allow to do a select All of the text
- XEM compatibility either as an extension for the global wiki, or as a
template based install (right now you have to install the XAR in each wiki)
- Install through extension manager
- See who's editing
- Auto-saving
- Handling merging if there has been a concurrent editing
- Support a live switch from wiki editing to real-time editing
Ludovic
2012/10/17 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
--
Ludovic Dubost
Founder and CEO
Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
Hi Caleb,
Ok I've played with it, very cool! :)
Some next steps:
* Make it a real extension installable with the Extension Manager:
** Move the project to xwiki-contrib and release a first 1.0 version of
the JAR and XAR in the xwiki maven repo for contrib
Slightly later:
* Add an Extension Point for the Edit menu and transform the JS Skin
extension into a UI Extension
Of course in term of the editor itself there are a few things to improve.
Some ideas:
* Release the lock only when all the editors have either cancelled or
saved the document so that someone who edits in wiki mode gets a lock
dialog box if someone is still editing it
* See who's editing + colors to differentiate users
* Use a textarea similar to the wiki editor one (no line number, same
font, etc)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
--
Ludovic Dubost
Founder and CEO
Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
Hi Caleb,
What a nice morning treat! :)
I'll check it out later today.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <
calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com>
wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which
was
developed as part of wiki/3.0.
> It is now installable as an extension.
It's still a bit rough around
the edges but it's pretty safe to
> play with so everyone is invited to give it a
try.
>
> * Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their
changes
are merged in real time.
>
> * The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki
so it won't break existing editors.
>
> * Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file,
removal
is simply deleting 2 XDocuments.
>
>
>
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
>
>
> Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the
extension wiki page and on the
> github bug tracker.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Caleb
_______________________________________________
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devs(a)xwiki.org
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8:03 p.m.
Found and fixed, thanks for reporting it.
I didn't notice that it was being pulled in because the WYSIWYG worked on chromium
despite it.
Thanks,
Caleb
On 10/17/2012 06:53 AM, Ludovic Dubost wrote:
Hi again,
There is a serious bug which makes the wysiwyg editor fail because the Rt
code loads on wysiwyg.
With the code in the JS Extension
var isRealtimeMode = function() {
return (window.location.hash == '#RealTime');
};
#if ("$!request.lazy" != "true")
if (isRealtimeMode()) {
Rt.load();
}
It allows to avoid loading conflicting code when in wysiwyg.
Ludovic
2012/10/17 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com>
Hi Caleb,
This is great progress ! Way to go.
Some improvements, sorted by priority from my POV:
- Support real-time editing on an object Textarea field
- The current textarea does not allow to do a select All of the text
- XEM compatibility either as an extension for the global wiki, or as a
template based install (right now you have to install the XAR in each wiki)
- Install through extension manager
- See who's editing
- Auto-saving
- Handling merging if there has been a concurrent editing
- Support a live switch from wiki editing to real-time editing
Ludovic
2012/10/17 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
Hi Caleb,
Ok I've played with it, very cool! :)
Some next steps:
* Make it a real extension installable with the Extension Manager:
** Move the project to xwiki-contrib and release a first 1.0 version of
the JAR and XAR in the xwiki maven repo for contrib
Slightly later:
* Add an Extension Point for the Edit menu and transform the JS Skin
extension into a UI Extension
Of course in term of the editor itself there are a few things to improve.
Some ideas:
* Release the lock only when all the editors have either cancelled or
saved the document so that someone who edits in wiki mode gets a lock
dialog box if someone is still editing it
* See who's editing + colors to differentiate users
* Use a textarea similar to the wiki editor one (no line number, same
font, etc)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
--
Ludovic Dubost
Founder and CEO
Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
Hi Caleb,
What a nice morning treat! :)
I'll check it out later today.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <
calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com>
wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which
was
developed as part of wiki/3.0.
> It is now installable as an extension.
It's still a bit rough around
the edges but it's pretty safe to
> play with so everyone is invited to give it a
try.
>
> * Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their
changes
are merged in real time.
>
> * The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki
so it won't break existing editors.
>
> * Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file,
removal
is simply deleting 2 XDocuments.
>
>
>
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
>
>
> Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the
extension wiki page and on the
> github bug tracker.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Caleb
_______________________________________________
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23 Oct
23 Oct
4:49 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] New Realtime collaborative editing extension.
On 10/17/2012 06:11 AM, Ludovic Dubost wrote:
Hi Caleb,
This is great progress ! Way to go.
Some improvements, sorted by priority from my POV:
- Support real-time editing on an object Textarea field
Not sure I understand this,
you mean for inline edit?
if so, there will of course be issues with input fields, checkboxes, and radio bubbles.
- The current textarea does not allow to do a select
All of the text
Added an issue for select all with ctrl+a as well as save (alt+s)
and save+continue (shift+alt+s)
https://github.com/cjdelisle/xwiki-platform-realtime/issues/3
- XEM compatibility either as an extension for the
global wiki, or as a
template based install (right now you have to install the XAR in each wiki)
https://github.com/cjdelisle/xwiki-platform-realtime/issues/2
- Install through extension manager
https://github.com/cjdelisle/xwiki-platform-realtime/issues/4
easy to do as long as XEM support still requires manual intervention
I think the rest of these issues fall in the "refactor realtime editor"
category.
I started a draft here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/RealTimeEditor
So we can talk about what is best for the next generation of the editor.
Thanks,
Caleb
- See who's editing
- Auto-saving
- Handling merging if there has been a concurrent editing
- Support a live switch from wiki editing to real-time editing
Ludovic
2012/10/17 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
Hi Caleb,
Ok I've played with it, very cool! :)
Some next steps:
* Make it a real extension installable with the Extension Manager:
** Move the project to xwiki-contrib and release a first 1.0 version of
the JAR and XAR in the xwiki maven repo for contrib
Slightly later:
* Add an Extension Point for the Edit menu and transform the JS Skin
extension into a UI Extension
Of course in term of the editor itself there are a few things to improve.
Some ideas:
* Release the lock only when all the editors have either cancelled or
saved the document so that someone who edits in wiki mode gets a lock
dialog box if someone is still editing it
* See who's editing + colors to differentiate users
* Use a textarea similar to the wiki editor one (no line number, same
font, etc)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caleb,
What a nice morning treat! :)
I'll check it out later today.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <
calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com>
wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which was
developed as part of wiki/3.0.
> It is now installable as an extension.
It's still a bit rough around
the edges but it's pretty safe to
> play with so everyone is invited to give it a
try.
>
> * Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their
changes
are merged in real time.
>
> * The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki
so it won't break existing editors.
>
> * Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file,
removal
is simply deleting 2 XDocuments.
>
>
>
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
>
>
> Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the
extension wiki page and on the
> github bug tracker.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Caleb
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12:42 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] New Realtime collaborative editing extension.
2012/10/23 Caleb James DeLisle <calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com>
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Founder and CEO
Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
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On 10/17/2012 06:11 AM, Ludovic Dubost wrote:
While of course it would be interesting to handle every form field of an
inline edit, this is not critical.
What's interesting is to be able to launch a realtime session on a textarea
field only.
Now there is an issue since we don't have the same options to switch
between modes on a textarea field, which is configured to go to Wysiwyg or
Wiki based on configuration. Even the Wysiwyg field does not have the
"Source" switch (which is a bit of an issue as sometimes you would need to
switch to source).
But this is a separate issue. We can do one of the following:
1/ Add a button to launch a realtime session which would be able to unload
the wysiwyg (if present) and launch realtime
2/ Support parameters that would switch to realtime. Not we already have
the "xeditmode=text" parameter which force loading wiki instead of wysiwyg.
So you could just make sure that http://.../inline/...?xeditmode=text#Realtime
would launch realtime on the first textarea field (or even on all fields).
Ludovic
Hi Caleb,
This is great progress ! Way to go.
Some improvements, sorted by priority from my POV:
- Support real-time editing on an object Textarea field
Not sure I understand
this, you mean for inline edit?
if so, there will of course be issues with input fields, checkboxes, and
radio bubbles.
- The current textarea does not allow to do a
select All of the text
Added an issue for select all with ctrl+a as well as save
(alt+s) and
save+continue (shift+alt+s)
https://github.com/cjdelisle/xwiki-platform-realtime/issues/3
- XEM compatibility either as an extension for
the global wiki, or as a
template based install (right now you have to install the XAR in each
wiki)
https://github.com/cjdelisle/xwiki-platform-realtime/issues/2
- Install through extension manager
https://github.com/cjdelisle/xwiki-platform-realtime/issues/4
easy to do as long as XEM support still requires manual intervention
I think the rest of these issues fall in the "refactor realtime editor"
category.
I started a draft here:
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/RealTimeEditor
So we can talk about what is best for the next generation of the editor.
Thanks,
Caleb
- See who's editing
- Auto-saving
- Handling merging if there has been a concurrent editing
- Support a live switch from wiki editing to real-time editing
Ludovic
2012/10/17 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
> Hi Caleb,
>
> Ok I've played with it, very cool! :)
>
> Some next steps:
> * Make it a real extension installable with the Extension Manager:
> ** Move the project to xwiki-contrib and release a first 1.0 version of
> the JAR and XAR in the xwiki maven repo for contrib
>
> Slightly later:
> * Add an Extension Point for the Edit menu and transform the JS Skin
> extension into a UI Extension
>
> Of course in term of the editor itself there are a few things to
improve.
> Some ideas:
> * Release the lock only when all the editors have either cancelled or
> saved the document so that someone who edits in wiki mode gets a lock
> dialog box if someone is still editing it
> * See who's editing + colors to differentiate users
> * Use a textarea similar to the wiki editor one (no line number, same
> font, etc)
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Caleb,
>>
>> What a nice morning treat! :)
>>
>> I'll check it out later today.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <
> calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which
was
> developed as part of wiki/3.0.
>>> It is now installable as an extension. It's still a bit rough around
> the edges but it's pretty safe to
>>> play with so everyone is invited to give it a try.
>>>
>>> * Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their
> changes are merged in real time.
>>>
>>> * The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and
Wiki
> so it won't break existing editors.
>>>
>>> * Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file,
> removal is simply deleting 2 XDocuments.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
>
>
> Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the
extension wiki page and on the
> github bug tracker.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Caleb
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Hi Caleb,
Happy to see you`re working on the RT editor :)
Now, I`m not sure why you`re using GitHub's issue tracker instead of Jira,
but I also wanted to point out that there already exist a couple of issues
[1] from the Wiki3.0 project on the RT editor, just in case you did not
know about them.
Hope this helps,
Eduard
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[1]
http://jira.xwiki.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=pr…
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
2012/10/23 Caleb James DeLisle
<calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com>
of
wrote:
their
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On 10/17/2012 06:11 AM, Ludovic Dubost wrote:
While of course it would be interesting to handle every form field of an
inline edit, this is not critical.
What's interesting is to be able to launch a realtime session on a textarea
field only.
Now there is an issue since we don't have the same options to switch
between modes on a textarea field, which is configured to go to Wysiwyg or
Wiki based on configuration. Even the Wysiwyg field does not have the
"Source" switch (which is a bit of an issue as sometimes you would need to
switch to source).
But this is a separate issue. We can do one of the following:
1/ Add a button to launch a realtime session which would be able to unload
the wysiwyg (if present) and launch realtime
2/ Support parameters that would switch to realtime. Not we already have
the "xeditmode=text" parameter which force loading wiki instead of wysiwyg.
So you could just make sure that http://
.../inline/...?xeditmode=text#Realtime
would launch realtime on the first textarea field (or even on all fields).
Ludovic
Hi Caleb,
This is great progress ! Way to go.
Some improvements, sorted by priority from my POV:
- Support real-time editing on an object Textarea field
Not sure I understand
this, you mean for inline edit?
if so, there will of course be issues with input fields, checkboxes, and
radio bubbles.
- The current textarea does not allow to do a
select All of the text
Added an issue for select all with ctrl+a as well as save
(alt+s) and
save+continue (shift+alt+s)
https://github.com/cjdelisle/xwiki-platform-realtime/issues/3
- XEM compatibility either as an extension for
the global wiki, or as a
template based install (right now you have to install the XAR in each
wiki)
https://github.com/cjdelisle/xwiki-platform-realtime/issues/2
- Install through extension manager
https://github.com/cjdelisle/xwiki-platform-realtime/issues/4
easy to do as long as XEM support still requires manual intervention
I think the rest of these issues fall in the "refactor realtime editor"
category.
I started a draft here:
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/RealTimeEditor
So we can talk about what is best for the next generation of the editor.
Thanks,
Caleb
> - See who's editing
> - Auto-saving
> - Handling merging if there has been a concurrent editing
> - Support a live switch from wiki editing to real-time editing
>
> Ludovic
>
> 2012/10/17 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
>
>> Hi Caleb,
>>
>> Ok I've played with it, very cool! :)
>>
>> Some next steps:
>> * Make it a real extension installable with the Extension Manager:
>> ** Move the project to xwiki-contrib and release a first 1.0 version > the
JAR and XAR in the xwiki maven repo for contrib
>
> Slightly later:
> * Add an Extension Point for the Edit menu and transform the JS Skin
> extension into a UI Extension
>
> Of course in term of the editor itself there are a few things to
improve.
>> Some ideas:
>> * Release the lock only when all the editors have either cancelled or
>> saved the document so that someone who edits in wiki mode gets a lock
>> dialog box if someone is still editing it
>> * See who's editing + colors to differentiate users
>> * Use a textarea similar to the wiki editor one (no line number, same
>> font, etc)
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> >
>> Hi Caleb,
>>
>> What a nice morning treat! :)
>>
>> I'll check it out later today.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <
> calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which
was
>> developed as part of wiki/3.0.
>>>> It is now installable as an extension. It's still a bit rough
around
>> the edges but it's pretty safe to
>>>> play with so everyone is invited to give it a try.
>>>>
>>>> * Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and >> changes are merged in real time.
>>>>
>>>> * The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG
and
Wiki
>> so it won't break existing editors.
>>>>
>>>> * Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar
file,
>
removal is simply deleting 2 XDocuments.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on
the
extension wiki page and on the
>> github bug tracker.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Caleb
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Good job Caleb!
The first step towards a great RT extension to XWiki.
-Fabio
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Caleb James DeLisle
<calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which was developed as part
of wiki/3.0.
It is now installable as an extension. It's still a bit rough around the edges but
it's pretty safe to
play with so everyone is invited to give it a try.
* Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their changes are merged
in real time.
* The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki so it
won't break existing editors.
* Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file, removal is simply
deleting 2 XDocuments.
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor
Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the extension wiki
page and on the
github bug tracker.
Thanks,
Caleb
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