8 Jun
2010
8 Jun
'10
1:44 p.m.
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 21:33, Raluca Stavro
<raluca.morosan(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
No, the icon size is ok. I modified a bit proposal 5.1 (I hope it's ok
with you Caty, otherwise we can revert the changes and add proposal
5.2) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
.
I added more padding, more margin, a bigger width for the available
rights to change (.submenuitem a span.changedRight) and I've made the
arrow a bit bigger (102% font size).
This way the user will select easier the items.
I didn't have time to change the way the submenu is displayed (click
instead of mouse over), but it's clear for me the way it will look
like and I really think that this proposal is clean and easy to
use/understand.
Raluca.
Hello all,
I really like the last proposal, Caty :)
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Alex Busenius <alex.busenius(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
Thanks Raluca. Yes, a better solution is be to increase the padding and also
use $theme.backgroundSecondaryColor (or a darker tone).
The problem is that on default theme, backgroundSecondaryColor is a gray
color and the contrast with the gray icon is not that good.
In terms of interaction I think "hover on tooltip" and "click on
arrow" for
changing the rights is better. The user browse the rights to see the
inheritance and see what those rights means, and when he made up his mind he
clicks and change the right.
There are more cases when the users is just browsing the rights, inspecting
or see rights meaning, than actually change them; so the harder activity
(clicking) should be put on changing the right.
The small arrow is a sign that there is a menu. If the menu will appear on
click, the arrow is necessary to work as an invitation and also to keep the
consistency with actionMenus.
Raluca, do you think we should use bigger icons, like Alex suggested? Maybe
if we put enough padding and we work a bit on the contrast
(backgroundSecondaryColor, highlightColor) this won't be necessary. Hi Caty,
This version is really cool, just some minor comments:
When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with
allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it
has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right
above the right icons from the line below.
The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is
really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to
the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just
because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some
people.
I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right
now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially
to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the
menu.
I think that the tooltip can be added on mouse click. This would imply
adding a nice question mark instead of that small arrow, and the user
would click anywhere on the span with the class name "summary". And
another improvement would be to add more padding to the drop down
menus. Caty is currently using the secondary background color, right?
Maybe we should use the highlight color, but I'm not sure of that.
The only advantage of another color set would be a greater space for user to
click/hover (we can fix that with padding). The disadvantage is that the
look&feel will be broken and also other icons will not correlate actions
done in XWiki (edit, delete, comment, etc) with the corresponding rights.
If the hover/click and the size of the icons are the only problem :) then is
ok
Thanks,
Caty
Raluca.
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On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Take a look at Rights 5
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space
>
> Added:
> * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides)
> * icons built together as a whole
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/i…
> * representation of "advanced
rights" with the same abstract icon, but
with
> different color (no text; we can debate this)
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/c…
> * inheritance arrow married with +/-
>
> IMGs (in case of browser problem)
> - collapsed:
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/r…
> - expanded:
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/r…
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Caty,
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Denis,
>>>
>>> I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P
>>>
>>
>> This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really
good
>> proposals.
>> I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion
is
>> becoming to much bilateral IMO.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Please take a look at a proposal for "V3 and my 3)" version with
elements
>>> from Rights2 :)
>>>
>>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal
>>> and in "action"
>>>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space
>>
>>
>> Really nice job ! I really appreciate.
>>
>>
>>> The prototype is not reflecting the "desired" interaction: both
inherited
>>> info and rights change appear on
hover (right icon and arrow), instead
of
>>> hover | click.
>>>
>>
>> I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big
tooltips
>> describing the rights should be the only
tooltips, and should be show
on
>> hover only after a small timeout (like
the yellow one currently).
Clicking
> any
where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu.
> Is it what you try ?
>
>
yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu.
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