26 Aug
2008
26 Aug
'08
9:34 p.m.
On Aug 26, 2008, at 9:19 PM, Squirrel wrote:
Sorry to butt-in into this thread. Something that
maybe someone from
the
community could do is to provide for some platform-combinations a
specific
installation routine (no, I don't know how to do that, but I do know
that
this is possible).
Yes that what I mean by "'the tutorials on the installation page":
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HTutorials
The more we have the merrier. However users must realize it's not
going to solve all issues and the other problems is that there's a
good chance these will become obsolete when XWiki evolves. This is why
I added the warning on that page: "Tutorials external to the xwiki.org
site have not been validated for correctness by the XWiki dev team and
it's also possible that they are out of date."
Thanks
-Vincent
So if you have a fresh Debian 4 Etch installation, you
would maybe
pick the
installation package (Deb?), which installs xwiki with all the
dependencies.
I'm aware of the fact, that you have several combination
possibilities (and
the update/upgrade procedure). I'm just saying that's maybe
something that
could lower some barriers for the people and get more people to use
XWiki.
Anybody out there who knows how to create something I outlined and
willing
to pitch in?
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
On Aug 26, 2008, at 8:34 PM, jeremy.amode(a)ensiie.fr wrote:
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As I explained it in several messages, I'm trying to use XWiki on a
remote server. We're accessing it with a ssh connection (using
Putty).
First, I tried to install the war manually and it seems that I
succeed
but we couldn't access to the XWiki page although Tomcat seems to
work
fine.
I couldn't find anybody able to help me on this matter and I needed
XWiki to be installed so I choose to install the standalone version.
But there's a little problem. XWiki is working just fine but we have
to start jetty with a command on our putty terminal and if we shut
the
window where the commad has been entered, we shut down jetty... so
we
can't access XWiki anymore if the window isn't open
Is there a way to keep Jetty running without having to keep the
terminal window open?
Sorry but I need to ask: how is all this related to xwiki?
XWiki is just a web application, i.e. a WAR. You have to install it
in
your favorite Servlet container.
Thus the question you have should be searched for in your favorite
Servlet container's documentation. XWiki doesn't explain what Java
is,
what a database is nor does it explain what a Servlet container is or
how it works. This is a given and a prerequisite.
That said, we've recognized the need to make it as simple as possible
to install XWiki and that's why we're also providing a bundled
standalone zip which has everything already packaged and configured.
But of course this bundle only provides a single configuration and is
only for testing.
What you really need to do (as is explained in the documentation) is
to install it in your own Servlet container and your own database.
That said, I must say that I've been
surprised by the difficulty to
install XWiki with both method (especially the first one). Even
with a
good tutorial about how to install xwiki manually on a Debian Etch
4.02 we still had a problem. And with the standalone version,
although
it works just fine, there still is this little problem with Jetty
(But
I hope somebody will be able to help with this). It's been difficult
to find help all over the web. Don't you think all the problems that
we can't get should be put in one place? It would avoid for someone
trying to install xwiki to spend hours looking at N sites and N
pages
to find only one information.
That"s a nice dream but it isn't feasible. We can't explain how an
operating system works, how Java works, how Servlet container works,
how a database work, how a mouse works, etc. We have to stop
somewhere.
Since Java has normalized what a web application is, this is where we
stop. You can find thousands of online documentation and books on
installing java webapps (.WAR files). That's really easy to find
documentation.
I hope I'll get to fix my problems and
I'll be happy to share it afterwards for people facing the same
issues. It would be really easier if all the installation problems
like this (exception, etc...) were listed on a unique page leading
to
the right solution rather than having to look to multiples threads,
forums, blogs and websites....
But that's just my opinion.
Sure. We'll be happy to add whatever tutorial you write to the list
we
have started on the Installation page but we'll never be able to
cover
all user cases. The only solution is for users to understand what
they
are doing and understand what a servlet container is, how to
configure
it, etc.
I hope someone will be able to help me with
Jetty.
Well that's really not hard. Just search google about running jetty
as
a service. The solution depen on your OS so I can't really answer.
For
windows, see http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Win32Wrapper
For unix just use the standard unix service for your OS (etc/init.d).
Thanks
-Vincent
Thank you for your time and the help you'll give me.
Regards,
Jeremy Amode.
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