Re: [xwiki-users] Clear them all! :p

I'm sure we can debate this all day. XWiki is very simple for end users to use. The actual purpose of the wiki (to allow people to create/edit/view articles/pages) is simple and straight-forward. I have everyone in our organisation using it successfully, and trust me, some of the end users should not be allowed near computers. But they managed to use the system for its purpose just fine. That doesn't mean that they can all install, configure, update and customise XWiki. I'll give you another analogy. XWiki is like a fine car. Cars are easy to use and drive by almost anyone. But that doesn't mean everyone can fix a car. Even if you know a little bit about how engines work and how to change the oil etc. Some jobs just have to be left to the professionals. XWiki is the same. Everyone can use it very easily. But when it comes to the advanced stuff, if you can't understand the excellent documentation, and no one can help you on the mailing list then the problem is not with XWiki. I consider myself a very competent engineer and developer, but there are some things that even I find quite advanced in XWiki. That goes to show how powerful it is (and what a great job the developers have done). Anyway I don’t think this is too constructive for the mailing list so I will stop here. You are entitled to your opinion and I am to mine (I think XWiki is great). If you don't like XWiki then I hope you find something that suits you better. That's the beauty of the internet and open source. You can always find something that suits you or make your own :) Kind regards, Mahomed -----Original Message----- From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Pascal BASTIEN Sent: 22 April 2015 22:23 To: XWiki Users; Maciej Fokt Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Clear them all! :p Hello,I'm sorry, I'm not agree with you : a powerfull system must hide the systems complexity... And it is a wiki : it's mean if there aren't enough simple documentation then anybody (high ueser AND "normal people" with non computer vision) must write a page to contribute and make more available for "simple" user. :-) IMO we can use a simple xwiki and/or use higher level xwiki and/or a customized one. :-) Pascal B. De : Mahomed Hussein <Mahomed(a)CustodianDC.com> À : Maciej Fokt <maciek.fokt(a)taxi123.pl>pl>; XWiki Users <users(a)xwiki.org> Envoyé le : Mercredi 22 avril 2015 18h37 Objet : Re: [xwiki-users] Clear them all! :p That's just the way technology is. The more powerful a system is, and the more options it has, then the more "technical" it is. If you want something that's easy for "no computer" people then I'm afraid you need to use something which has less features and power. A jumbo jet pilot needs to have more experience and knowledge than a Cessna pilot. The jumbo jet has more buttons and features and probably cannot be easily or ever flown by a Cessna pilot. That's just the way things are. XWiki actually has VERY good documentation (some of the best I've seen, and I've seen a lot of systems). It also has a helpful mailing list. Unfortunately it's not XWiki' s fault if you can't understand the documentation or the help that you have been offered several times here. I genuinely hope you manage to find a system that you like and works for you. Kind regards, Mahomed -----Original Message----- From: Maciej Fokt [mailto:maciek.fokt@taxi123.pl] Sent: 22 April 2015 17:27 To: XWiki Users; Mahomed Hussein Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Clear them all! :p No way... I have back to the 1.1 version and now i haven't settings... Why XWiki (good, big and helpful toll) can be so hard for "no computer" people... Thanks all for help, but XWiki is too hard for me, I think. W dniu .04.2015 o 18:00 Mahomed Hussein <Mahomed(a)custodiandc.com> pisze: _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users