7 Jul
2010
7 Jul
'10
7:32 a.m.
Hi,
yeah but i thought the database would handle any conflicts, beside a read only mode is
enough for enterprise environment. It would allow employees to access all the information
needed offline, changes could be code only like XEclipse, which get solved once online
again. E.G. in the company I'm working most of our handbooks, guidelines should get
accessed through XWiki; often employees go to meetings on buildings sites where there is
no internet connection, which means they have to access all the handbooks via filesystem,
which is slow as they need to scroll through a foldersystem with ~1000 guides.
I think here would be the real advantage of an offline XWiki.
Regards
Thomas
Well this is not really enough, as this locks you in
read-only mode.
Concerto was meant to provide offline, but you need some additional code
and storage on both the server and the client to run the replication
model.
The replication model is what guarantees solutions to conflicts..
Now conflict are very very rare when you look at the use cases, and a
much simpler replication model which could fail on conflicts would be
probably largely enough for most cases.
Concerto is quite overkill for the simple replication scenario. The
power of Concerto is P2P replication just using a relay network which
does not store anything. But in this world this scenario does not have a
big future.
Ludovic
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> This sounds kind of like Concerto also
sharing the Advantages and the
> Disadvanges
>
> However, some mid way would be nice in future (the sooner the better)
simple
rendering
and maybe search in XEclipse would be great.
Yes, XEclipse does need some love. We'll see.
Thanks,
Eduard
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>
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: users-bounces(a)xwiki.org [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] Im > Eduard Moraru
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Juli 2010 16:46
> An: users(a)xwiki.org
> Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] state of xwiki concerto
>
> Hi,
>
> On 07/06/2010 04:07 PM, Thomas Hoeschele wrote:
>
>> Just jumping in here, as I have to ask this: is there any Possilibity
to
>>
> Use XWiki Offline apart from Concerto? I consider this a crucial
feature for
> a lot of enterprise where employees have to
work outside or have no
internet
> in meetings.
>
>> Btw, I thing something like XEclipse with Page preview would suffice.
>>
>> thank !
>>
>>
> Well, XEclipse was originally part of the XWiki Concerto research
> project as well. AFAIK, there is currently no XWiki Offline standalone
> project.
>
> So there are basically 2 options for offline work with xwiki: Concerto
> and XEclipse.
>
> - Concerto involves having a local (in offline work context) xwiki
> installation that replicates completely or partially a remote xwiki.
> - Advantage: full featured XWiki experience.
> - Dissadvantage: big footprint, possibly instable due to current
status.
> - XEclipse involves downloading a set of
pages (or entire spaces) and
> working in an Eclipse environment.
> - Advantage: light, syntax highlighting, suggestions, etc.
> - Disadvantage: only wiki syntax mode is supported and partial
> rendering (since you don't have the wiki's entire contents with you).
>
> Both options synchronize with remote XWiki when internet is available.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Thanks,
> Eduard
>
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>
>>
>>> Datum: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:06:41 +0100
>>> Von: Ponder Muse<ponder.muse(a)googlemail.com>
>>> An: XWiki Users<users(a)xwiki.org>
>>> Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] state of xwiki concerto
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> Hi Eduard,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have fixed the build issues and now Concerto should be building
>>>> without problems.
>>>>
>>>> Please make sure to follow the steps described at
>>>> http://concerto.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Tutorial
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks for your efforts in making Concerto available again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On the other hand, if you can wait a couple of hours, I am sure I
will
>>>> find a place to host the 80mb jar
installer build of Concerto that I
>>>> remade and fix the link available at
>>>> http://concerto.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/DownloadAndInstall
>>>> Please check the page for updates in about 12 hours.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I will give the built installer a go once its available at the above
>>> link.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your interest in Concerto and I would greatly
appreciate
>>>
>>>
>>>> your feedback on it, even though the development on this project is
>>>> currently suspended.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Sure thing, I'll do that.
>>>
>>> P.S.: Please keep in mind that, as Sergiu stated, even though the
>>>
>>>
>>>> project ended successfully, the prototype is not ready for
production. I
>>>> checked it, and it's running
decently with the bundled XWiki
Enterprise
>> 1.8.1, but you should not use it for sensitive
information.
>>
>>
>>
> No worries with it being just a prototype as we will trial it in a
> controlled lab environment only.
>
> Thanks again for your efforts - much appreciated!
>
> Regards,
> PM.
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