http://imgur.com/B9e2c Sometimes i see sach interspaced font when seeing some chinese or japanese or other hieroglyphic messages. But why for Russian ? very hard to read! -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Diff-font-is-tp7580425.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

That only displays so in MSIE9, not in Opera 12. However CSS inspection in MSIE is not not comfort. Okay. Trigger is : div.diff-container {font-family } If i remove "courier" from there or put it after "monospace" - then MSIE renders more or less okay. I'd like to note:

1) u use inherit values even on root element - HTML/BODY does it have sense there ?

2) dunno about Chrome and Moz, but in Opera and MSIe use of inherit strikes out all other values. IT is hard to track which value is in effect :-/ Had to remove styles one after another.

3) inherit only supported since MSIE 8. You render out MSIE6 and MSIE 7.

Would have to try tpo push for MSIE8 upgrade if install xwiki into intranet. 4) Both MSIE9 Devtools and Opera DragonFly shoes "monospace" without qoutes and Courier in quotes, regardless of case. So to me it suggests that "monospace" is standard CSS value and "Courier"/"courier" is not, probably meaning some proprietary font *name* and then browsers think how to override it (non standard vendor-specific behaviour). To support this idea:

4.0) as i remember, "Courier" was old raster 16-bit Windows font. Scaleable TTf font is called "Courier New"

4.1) If i set the value "courier new, monospace" that looks in MSIE9 exactly like "monospace" alone.

4.2) in Opera "courier new" is getting quotations exactly like "courier" 4.3) all CSS tutorials i googled enumerate 5 standard values and Courier is not among them. http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_font_font-family.asp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Font_family_(HTML)#Generic_font_families 4.4) Opera always had flexible font re-mapping, 10 years ago it was very needed without encodings support. http://help.opera.com/Linux/9.52/en/fonts.html The screenshots are http://imgur.com/a/UE4h5 - i feel they support this idea. The comparision of liens at http://imgur.com/a/55Xrq also suggests it. 4.5) i asked a question would see http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/fonts-for-web-design-a-primer/#comments Same effect i see on http://www.indeep76.com/Style/Example007/fonts.html Funny thing, on http://y3x.ru/sandbox/css/font-family/ it is the opposite picture. MSIE works with Courier+monospace nicely and Opera fails. -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Diff-font-is-tp7580425p7580437.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

It's called CSS Reset, and it's a technique used all over the web.

> 4) Both MSIE9 Devtools and Opera DragonFly shoes "monospace" without > qoutesand Courier in quotes, regardless of case. So to me it suggests > that"monospace" is standard CSS value and "Courier"/"courier" is not, > probablymeaning some proprietary font *name* and then browsers think > how to overrideit (non standard vendor-specific behaviour). To support > this idea:

As per http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/fonts.html#algorithm the browsershould first try Courier and if it doesn't support it then it shouldfall back on Monospace which is next on the font-family list. The factthat IE9 stops at Courier font means that it is supported. The factthat the text is badly displayed is IMO a IE9 bug.

> 4.1) If i set the value "courier new, monospace" that looks in MSIE9 > exactlylike "monospace" alone.

Probably because IE9 doesn't support "courier new".

I guess the fix is in your case to just remove the Courier font fromthe value of the font-family CSS property.

4.2) in Opera "courier new" is getting quotations exactly like "courier"

4.3) all CSS tutorials i googled enumerate 5 standard values and Courier isnot among them. http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_font_font-family.asp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Font_family_(HTML)#Generic_font_families 4.4) Opera always had flexible font re-mapping, 10 years ago it was very needed without encodings support. http://help.opera.com/Linux/9.52/en/fonts.html The screenshots are http://imgur.com/a/UE4h5 - i feel they support thisidea. The comparision of liens at http://imgur.com/a/55Xrq also suggests it.4.5) i asked a question would see http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/fonts-for-web-design-a-primer/#comments Same effect i see on http://www.indeep76.com/Style/Example007/fonts.html Funny thing, on http://y3x.ru/sandbox/css/font-family/ it is the opposite picture. MSIE works with Courier+monospace nicely and Opera fails.

Marius Dumitru Florea [via XWiki] <ml-node+s475771n7580614h61(a)n2.nabble.com> писал(а) в своём письме Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:13:51 +0400: I googled for term and found http://sixrevisions.com/css/css-tips/css-tip-1-resetting-your-styles-with-c… This concept is opposite to inheritance, it is massive overriding of inherited values rather than re-using them. It also sits in th basement, between browser built-in defaults and real styles. While "inherit" value seems to be be all through CSS from mos basic to most narrow selectors. No, it is not a bug. It is exactly what Courier font is. Raster font obsoleted back in 1992. In today world of vector fonts, bitmap files that were not updated since 1992 might be pardoned for looking less than fancy. How can it not support the font foudn in system, while supporting all other fonts ? I already given an explanation - MSIE sets Courier New as a default font for "monospace" alias. So if you select that name by font or by alias does not make difference. That's how Opera would react on "Consolas, monospace", for it sets "Consolas" for default value to "monospace" alias. I guess font's name-calling is just to be removed from CSS. That was sub-standard legacy-compatibility measure when there was no support for CSS standard aliaes like "monospace". But since you're ditching MSIE7 as "too old" one, i''m pretty sure you can rely that all current browsers do support standard aliases, and use the fonts user feels are best. For Linux there were Microsoft CoureirNew, URW, Vera, DejaVu, Liberation and what not Original 1955-designed Courier font with most popular implementation obsoleted 20 years ago is hardly a good choice i wanted to check Chrome and Mozilla, but cannot find russian text on xwiki.org and http://playground.xwiki.org/ only allows anonymous reading, not editing (sic! after i login it diallows me even read sandbox!) which means Opera deviates form standard by prohibiting Courier font despite being ready in system. But that deviation is what allows it render that style nicely. -- Написано в почтовом клиенте браузера Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Diff-font-is-tp7580425p7580619.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Well, there is no russian text there. So even when i remove more modern fonts (BTW i wonder why there is not "Lucida Console" mentioned. From Win2000 to Vista it was recommended font for sources on Win) the picture remains okay. http://shot.qip.ru/008DN7-1PXOGWuBy/ http://shot.qip.ru/008DN7-1PXOGWuBx/ http://shot.qip.ru/008DN7-2PXOGWuBz/ -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Diff-font-is-tp7580425p7580636.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Well, will there be next release - i would try. As of now, XWiki cannot be cloned and built on Windows. While i do not know Java, i wanted to try fixing Office import and export and checking the outcome. But build environment on Windows just is not possible as of now. So i just registered patches without knowing if they work or not :-) But frankly, that *should* be better, cause initially i on-the-go stripped "courier" from CSS and it was enough to work it out. 2012/7/31 Marius Dumitru Florea [via XWiki] < ml-node+s475771n7580638h5(a)n2.nabble.com&gt; -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Diff-font-is-tp7580425p7580639.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

MSys Git is standard on Windows and is used by all Git-aware programs. It's like i would ask you to install windows application just to check something, and the applicaiton thsat does not work in Wine, but requires some custom tailored emulator. Frankly, for you it only takes pressing one button to run build and deploy script. For me it takes learning a lot of layers of lot of programs that i don't have knowledge at all. It is overkill. I can learn C++ and Visual Studio and patch MSYS and push it all upstream. I can run Knoppix or Linux in userspace I can even delete Windows and spend few month learning all the tricks in Linux (after few weaks of choosing distro) To check a one liner in CSS ?

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You could as well just apply the change to instance diff.css file. It's in ./resources/uicomponents/viewers/diff.css