23 Feb
2010
23 Feb
'10
5:30 p.m.
Hi,
to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted
ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib.
This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days
when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login.
In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username
or password".
This text is NOT part of the property file.
Where is the place to translate this texts?
Stefan Bachert
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10:59 p.m.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <stefanbachert(a)yahoo.de> wrote:
Hi,
to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted
ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib.
This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days
when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login.
In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username
or password".
This text is NOT part of the property file.
Where is the place to translate this texts?
You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no
translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text
in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys
in it.
Stefan Bachert
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24 Feb
24 Feb
9:46 a.m.
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor
in ApplicationResources.properties
nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can
drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
The following text is part of the login dialog
key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default)
Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously they
are not used at this place.
it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Stefan Bachert
________________________________
Von: Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
An: XWiki Users <users(a)xwiki.org>
Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 22:59:31 Uhr
Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Translations
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <stefanbachert(a)yahoo.de> wrote:
Hi,
to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted
ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib.
This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days
when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login.
In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username
or password".
This text is NOT part of the property file.
Where is the place to translate this texts?
You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no
translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text
in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys
in it.
Stefan Bachert
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9:59 a.m.
Hi Stefan,
On Feb 24, 2010, at 9:46 AM, stefan bachert wrote:
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor
in ApplicationResources.properties
nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient.
This is not very polite. I'd suggest you refrain yourself from criticizing too
strongly the work of others unless you can prove you can do better. It's also not the
way you're going to get more of the free support you've been getting for the past
several days here.
Now on a positive thought:
Why don't you improve it? Just send patches and xwiki committers will review them and
commit them if they're good.
You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
Thanks
-Vincent
The following text is part of the login dialog
key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default)
Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously
they are not used at this place.
it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Stefan Bachert
________________________________
Von: Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
An: XWiki Users <users(a)xwiki.org>
Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 22:59:31 Uhr
Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Translations
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <stefanbachert(a)yahoo.de> wrote:
Hi,
to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted
ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib.
This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days
when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login.
In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username
or password".
This text is NOT part of the property file.
Where is the place to translate this texts?
You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no
translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text
in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys
in it.
>
> Stefan Bachert
12:47 p.m.
Hi Stefan,
On Feb 24, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Stefan,
On Feb 24, 2010, at 9:46 AM, stefan bachert wrote:
Ok I was told that you probably didn't really mean "ugly". Words are
powerful so they need to be chosen carefully...
Sergiu pointed to me that on small resolutions the table is overflowing on the main page.
It used to work fine so someone must have changed the CSS. This can be fixed easily.
I've pinged Caty (she's done the theme/CSS for l10n) to see if she can fix it.
Criticism is good and really needed to improve so please continue reporting shortfalls but
please try to say them in a nice manner, that helps a lot. And if you have suggestions
we'd love to hear them too.
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor
in ApplicationResources.properties
nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient.
This is not very polite. I'd suggest you refrain yourself from criticizing too
strongly the work of others unless you can prove you can do better. It's also not the
way you're going to get more of the free support you've been getting for the past
several days here. Now on a positive thought:
Why don't you improve it? Just send patches and xwiki committers will review them and
commit them if they're good.
That still stands! All help is most welcome. Nobody is "responsible" for l10n
and everyone tries to help in his free time.
Thanks
-Vincent (speaking for myself here of course, I'm not representing the xwiki project
or anything like that)
You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a
request
Thanks
-Vincent
> The following text is part of the login dialog
> key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default)
> Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
>
> However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously
they are not used at this place.
>
> it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
>
>
> Stefan Bachert
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
> An: XWiki Users <users(a)xwiki.org>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 22:59:31 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Translations
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <stefanbachert(a)yahoo.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted
ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib.
>> This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would
took days when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
>>
>>
>> However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to
login.
>> In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your
username or password".
>> This text is NOT part of the property file.
>> Where is the place to translate this texts?
>
> You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no
> translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text
> in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys
> in it.
>
>>
>> Stefan Bachert
2:55 p.m.
On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Stefan,
On Feb 24, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
ok I think I've fixed it. Let me know if it's good for you now.
Thanks
-Vincent
Hi Stefan,
On Feb 24, 2010, at 9:46 AM, stefan bachert wrote:
Ok I was told that you probably didn't really mean "ugly". Words are
powerful so they need to be chosen carefully...
Sergiu pointed to me that on small resolutions the table is overflowing on the main page.
It used to work fine so someone must have changed the CSS. This can be fixed easily.
I've pinged Caty (she's done the theme/CSS for l10n) to see if she can fix it.
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor
in ApplicationResources.properties
nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient.
This is not very polite. I'd suggest you refrain yourself from criticizing too
strongly the work of others unless you can prove you can do better. It's also not the
way you're going to get more of the free support you've been getting for the past
several days here.
Criticism is good and really needed to improve so please continue reporting shortfalls
but please try to say them in a nice manner, that helps a lot. And if you have suggestions
we'd love to hear them too.
Now on a positive thought:
Why don't you improve it? Just send patches and xwiki committers will review them and
commit them if they're good.
That still stands! All help is most welcome. Nobody is "responsible" for l10n
and everyone tries to help in his free time.
Thanks
-Vincent (speaking for myself here of course, I'm not representing the xwiki project
or anything like that)
You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a
request
Thanks
-Vincent
> The following text is part of the login dialog
> key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default)
> Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
>
> However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously
they are not used at this place.
>
> it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
>
>
> Stefan Bachert
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
> An: XWiki Users <users(a)xwiki.org>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 22:59:31 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Translations
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <stefanbachert(a)yahoo.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted
ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib.
>> This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would
took days when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
>>
>>
>> However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to
login.
>> In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your
username or password".
>> This text is NOT part of the property file.
>> Where is the place to translate this texts?
>
> You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no
> translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text
> in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys
> in it.
>
>>
>> Stefan Bachert 
10:38 a.m.
I can share my experience as localizer for Xwiki in Latvian.
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor
in ApplicationResources.properties
nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can
drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
First few thousand of lines I translated offline using resource file and
it was imported by Ludovic Dubost.
Further improvements/additions I do online. Provided search was not good
enough for me, so I helped to improve it.
Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by
(poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
To solve issue that site is quite slow, it should be investigated about
caching possibilities, or import/export tool would be nice, but somebody
needs to develop it.
Though, if so many people can live with Windows, i10n.xwiki.org is not
the worst one, which teaches us to manage our time with computer
accordingly ;-)
The following text is part of the login dialog
key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default)
Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously
they are not used at this place.
it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Currently not all labels are made to use external resources, but it is
changing incrementally.
Valdis
11:52 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:38, Valdis Vītoliņš <valdis.vitolins(a)odo.lv> wrote:
I can share my experience as localizer for Xwiki in
Latvian.
Yes that's what is explained on
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/AddALanguage
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor
in ApplicationResources.properties
nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can
drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
First few thousand of lines I translated offline using resource file and
it was imported by Ludovic Dubost. Further improvements/additions I do online. Provided
search was not good
enough for me, so I helped to improve it.
Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by
(poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like:
o search in translated
o search in original
o search in key
To solve issue that site is quite slow, it should be investigated about
caching possibilities, or import/export tool would be nice, but somebody
There is a lot of caching, if you load a page once then it's
refreshing instantly after. Now when you modify something the caches
that can be changed by the modification made are cleaned and so take
so time to reconstruct the stats tables. We could improve that by
modifying the cache instead of cleaning it but it's more work.
needs to develop it.
Though, if so many people can live with Windows, i10n.xwiki.org is not
the worst one, which teaches us to manage our time with computer
accordingly ;-)
--
Thomas Mortagne
The following text is part of the login dialog
key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default)
Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously
they are not used at this place.
it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Currently not all labels are made to use external resources, but it is
changing incrementally.
Valdis
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users(a)xwiki.org
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11:55 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:52, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
--
Thomas Mortagne
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:38, Valdis Vītoliņš
<valdis.vitolins(a)odo.lv> wrote:
Hmm i never tried the search before now and indeed it's very slow i
will see if i can do something to improve it.
I can share my experience as localizer for Xwiki
in Latvian.
Yes that's what is explained on
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/AddALanguage
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor
in ApplicationResources.properties
nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can
drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
First few thousand of lines I translated offline using resource file and
it was imported by Ludovic Dubost. Further improvements/additions I do online.
Provided search was not good
enough for me, so I helped to improve it.
Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by
(poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like:
o search in translated
o search in original
o search in key
To solve issue that site is quite slow, it should be investigated about
caching possibilities, or import/export tool would be nice, but somebody
There is a lot of caching, if you load a page once then it's
refreshing instantly after. Now when you modify something the caches
that can be changed by the modification made are cleaned and so take
so time to reconstruct the stats tables. We could improve that by
modifying the cache instead of cleaning it but it's more work. needs to develop it.
Though, if so many people can live with Windows, i10n.xwiki.org is not
the worst one, which teaches us to manage our time with computer
accordingly ;-)
--
Thomas Mortagne
The following text is part of the login dialog
key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default)
Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously
they are not used at this place.
it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Currently not all labels are made to use external resources, but it is
changing incrementally.
Valdis
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users(a)xwiki.org
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11:56 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:55, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
--
Thomas Mortagne
--
Thomas Mortagne
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:52, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
And by the way after searching something you go to
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/Search and here you have an
extended search already.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:38, Valdis Vītoliņš
<valdis.vitolins(a)odo.lv> wrote:
Hmm i never tried the search before now and indeed it's very slow i
will see if i can do something to improve it. I can share my experience as localizer for Xwiki
in Latvian.
Yes that's what is explained on
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/AddALanguage
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor
in ApplicationResources.properties
nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can
drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
First few thousand of lines I translated offline using resource file and
it was imported by Ludovic Dubost. Further improvements/additions I do online.
Provided search was not good
enough for me, so I helped to improve it.
Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by
(poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like:
o search in translated
o search in original
o search in key
To solve issue that site is quite slow, it should be investigated about
caching possibilities, or import/export tool would be nice, but somebody
There is a lot of caching, if you load a page once then it's
refreshing instantly after. Now when you modify something the caches
that can be changed by the modification made are cleaned and so take
so time to reconstruct the stats tables. We could improve that by
modifying the cache instead of cleaning it but it's more work. needs to develop it.
Though, if so many people can live with Windows, i10n.xwiki.org is not
the worst one, which teaches us to manage our time with computer
accordingly ;-)
--
Thomas Mortagne
The following text is part of the login dialog
key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default)
Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously
they are not used at this place.
it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Currently not all labels are made to use external resources, but it is
changing incrementally.
Valdis
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
11:56 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:56, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
--
Thomas Mortagne
--
Thomas Mortagne
--
Thomas Mortagne
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:55, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
(If you use the search panel or the left, and not the standard XWiki search)
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:52, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
And by the way after searching something you go to
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/Search and here you have an
extended search already. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:38, Valdis Vītoliņš
<valdis.vitolins(a)odo.lv> wrote:
Hmm i never tried the search before now and indeed it's very slow i
will see if i can do something to improve it. I can share my experience as localizer for Xwiki
in Latvian.
> Hi,
> some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties
nor in ApplicationResources.properties
> nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can
drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
First few thousand of lines I translated offline using resource file and
it was imported by Ludovic Dubost.
Yes that's what is explained on
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/AddALanguage
Further improvements/additions I do online.
Provided search was not good
enough for me, so I helped to improve it.
Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by
(poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like:
o search in translated
o search in original
o search in key
To solve issue that site is quite slow, it should be investigated about
caching possibilities, or import/export tool would be nice, but somebody
There is a lot of caching, if you load a page once then it's
refreshing instantly after. Now when you modify something the caches
that can be changed by the modification made are cleaned and so take
so time to reconstruct the stats tables. We could improve that by
modifying the cache instead of cleaning it but it's more work. needs to develop it.
Though, if so many people can live with Windows, i10n.xwiki.org is not
the worst one, which teaches us to manage our time with computer
accordingly ;-)
> The following text is part of the login dialog
> key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default)
> Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
>
> However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously
they are not used at this place.
> it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Currently not all labels are made to use external resources, but it is
changing incrementally.
Valdis
_______________________________________________
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users(a)xwiki.org
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12:08 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Search for translations
>> Actually I'd like to change it once more
because for me searching by
>> (poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
>
> Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like:
>
> o search in translated
> o search in original
> o search in key
It is already implemented in
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/Search
I propose to change "Search translation" field shown in home page
from key to translated text in panel
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10NCode/SearchPanel
(I have no edit rights to do it myself).
Hmm i never tried the search before now and indeed
it's very slow i
will see if i can do something to improve it.
Good luck in your investigation!
Valdis
28 Feb
28 Feb
3:03 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Search for translations
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:08, Valdis Vītoliņš <valdis.vitolins(a)odo.lv> wrote:
It is already implemented in
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/Search
I propose to change "Search translation" field shown in home page
from key to translated text in panel
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10NCode/SearchPanel
Done.
Actually I'd like to change it once more because
for me searching by
(poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like:
o search in translated
o search in original
o search in key (I have no edit rights to do it myself).
Hmm i never tried the search before now and indeed it's very slow i
will see if i can do something to improve it.
Good luck in your investigation!
Valdis
--
Thomas Mortagne
24 Feb
24 Feb
11:38 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 09:46, stefan bachert <stefanbachert(a)yahoo.de> wrote:
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor
in ApplicationResources.properties
nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can
drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
If the key you are searching is not in ApplicationResources.properties
then that's the bug and the text you are trying to translate is
probably hardcoded and does not use l10n system. You should report it
on http://jira.xwiki.org
The following text is part of the login dialog
key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default)
Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously
they are not used at this place.
it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Stefan Bachert
________________________________
Von: Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
An: XWiki Users <users(a)xwiki.org>
Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 22:59:31 Uhr
Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Translations
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <stefanbachert(a)yahoo.de> wrote:
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Hi,
to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted
ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib.
This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days
when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login.
In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username
or password".
This text is NOT part of the property file.
Where is the place to translate this texts?
You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no
translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text
in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys
in it.
Stefan Bachert
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11:55 a.m.
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing
the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that
not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable
page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their
thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Thanks
hel.
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12:44 p.m.
On 02/24/2010 11:55 AM, hel-o wrote:
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing
the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that
not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable
page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their
thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Yes, we did this for .ro at
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussion/XE_Ro
You can google-translate it to see what kind of discussion we had.
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1:18 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Translations discussion
Will the new page
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German
be ok?
Valdis
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing
the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that
not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable
page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their
thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Thanks
hel.
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2:30 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Translations discussion
On Feb 24, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Valdis Vītoliņš wrote:
Will the new page
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German
be ok?
This sounds like a very good idea to me!
Thanks
-Vincent
Valdis
> Hi,
>
> id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing
> the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that
> not all of it is incorrect german :).
>
> One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable
> page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their
> thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
>
> Thanks
> hel.
2:33 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Translations discussion
On Feb 24, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Feb 24, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Valdis Vītoliņš wrote:
For now I've added a link from the Quick Links panel.
Thanks
-Vincent
Will the new page
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German
be ok?
This sounds like a very good idea to me! Valdis
> Hi,
>
> id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing
> the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that
> not all of it is incorrect german :).
>
> One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable
> page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their
> thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
>
> Thanks
> hel.
5:55 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Translations discussion
Hi,
> Will the new page
> http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German
> be ok?
Yes thats great.
Also i too think that the proposal thomas made would be a better solution in
a long term.
Thanks
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2:33 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Translations discussion
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 13:18, Valdis Vītoliņš <valdis.vitolins(a)odo.lv> wrote:
Will the new page
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German
be ok?
Could you look at my general proposal on the original mail thread. I
think it's better than creating wild discussion pages on l10n wiki.
Valdis
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Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing
the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that
not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable
page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their
thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Thanks
hel.
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2:35 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Translations discussion
On Feb 24, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 13:18, Valdis Vītoliņš
<valdis.vitolins(a)odo.lv> wrote:
I probably missed this proposal. Thomas would you have a link?
Thanks
-Vincent
Will the new page
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German
be ok?
Could you look at my general proposal on the original mail thread. I
think it's better than creating wild discussion pages on l10n wiki. > Valdis
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing
>> the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that
>> not all of it is incorrect german :).
>>
>> One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable
>> page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their
>> thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
>>
>> Thanks
>> hel.
3:06 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Translations discussion
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 14:35, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Feb 24, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
that's on the "[xwiki-users] Translations" thread started by stefan
bachert where hel-o asked for the same thing: a place to discuss
translations rules
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 13:18, Valdis Vītoliņš
<valdis.vitolins(a)odo.lv> wrote:
I probably missed this proposal. Thomas would you have a link? Will the new page
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German
be ok?
Could you look at my general proposal on the original mail thread. I
think it's better than creating wild discussion pages on l10n wiki.
Thanks
-Vincent
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> Valdis
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing
>> the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that
>> not all of it is incorrect german :).
>>
>> One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable
>> page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their
>> thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
>>
>> Thanks
>> hel.
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2:02 p.m.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:55, hel-o <hel(a)hel.at> wrote:
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing
the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that
not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable
page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their
thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Sounds a good idea indeed. We could have a page by language you access
by clicking on the flags on the right for example. When you are in the
main page it goes to a page related to the whole wiki and then you can
also create a page related to each application that has the global
page as parent (the flag panel would change the link based on the
context).
Lets say
/L10N/TranslationRules: general rules whatever the application or language
/L10N/TranslationRules_<language>: general rules about the language
"language" whatever the application
/<APP>/TranslationRules : any specific about the application "APP"
whatever the language
/<APP>/TranslationRules_<language>: any specific about the application
"APP" in language "language"
For a specific translation key you can directly comment on the
translation page like
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Wysiwyg/WysiwygStringsproperties_-5418…
What don't you think ?
Thanks
hel.
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26 Feb
9:04 p.m.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 14:02, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
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On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:55, hel-o
<hel(a)hel.at> wrote:
Done. See http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/TranslationRules
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing
the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that
not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable
page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their
thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Sounds a good idea indeed. We could have a page by language you access
by clicking on the flags on the right for example. When you are in the
main page it goes to a page related to the whole wiki and then you can
also create a page related to each application that has the global
page as parent (the flag panel would change the link based on the
context).
Lets say
/L10N/TranslationRules: general rules whatever the application or language
/L10N/TranslationRules_<language>: general rules about the language
"language" whatever the application
/<APP>/TranslationRules : any specific about the application "APP"
whatever the language
/<APP>/TranslationRules_<language>: any specific about the application
"APP" in language "language"
For a specific translation key you can directly comment on the
translation page like
http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Wysiwyg/WysiwygStringsproperties_-5418…
What don't you think ?
Thanks
hel.
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27 Feb
9:30 p.m.
Great =)
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24 Feb
24 Feb
1:14 p.m.
Hi Stefan,
bitte nicht schimpfen, lieber mitmachen und helfen …
Please don't rant on how bad is XWiki internationalized - better help to
improve translations.
XWiki it open source peoduct, that means:
You have always free choice:
- not to use XWiki, if you find it bad
- to consume XWiki and be satisfied with the work of other people, which
you get for free
- participate in the development if you will have it better.
It was a great work of many contributors to get XWiki running in different
languages. This work is not finished yet and any help is appreciated.
E.g. there are some missing translations and hard coded messages in English
– partially in javascript files from third party developers, partially in
xml files from a default set of XWiki pages (.xar-Archiv), partially in
templates.
As to your question:
> In the last line of the dialog the texts are still
in english "Forgot
> your username or password".
This message comes from /templates/login.vm
#if($xwiki.exists("XWiki.ResetPassword"))
<div style="font-size: 70%; margin-top: 2em;">Forgot your
$xwiki.getURL('XWiki.ForgotUsername') username or
$xwiki.getURL('XWiki.ResetPassword') password ?</div>
#end
- just translate english words in German.
Or better – create one new keyword for this message and replace it with
$msg.get (‘keyword’).
If you are not satisfied or don't agree with the meaning of some
translations in ApplicationResources_de file, you can also create your own
local page with translations inside your wiki – in this case values from
ApplicationRecourses_de will be overwritten - see “Using properties located
in XWiki pages“) -
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/InternationalizingApplica…
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