25 Feb
2014
25 Feb
'14
1:06 a.m.
Hello everybody.
Here I'am again =).
Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some time
ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =). (hope I'm posting in the
right place now).
So, let me answer what Marius asked on
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085
First, let me explain better what I said on Jira:
plain text = unstructured information
dynamic label = properties
dynamic object = structured information
The situation:
I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my
company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've decided to
make a livetable to filter and show the results. I`ve set some parameters
like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be able to easily identify
the Product.
Here is the problem:
Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name,
Category, Applies to, Price). I`am not able to insert plain
text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc.
When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the
content, but it doesn't show what I had writen.
Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing list that there was no
reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same place as
structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant to store this type of
data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck).
What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or properties(whatever
is the right name =)) to be able to identify and sort the itens(by using
livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need
unstructured + structured data in the same place.
Let me paint you a picture with the example below:
______________________________________
Product name: AGX
Category: Music Stand
Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar.
Price: 30
______________________________________
= Description: =
_______
| Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value
for money you will ever find.,,,
= Strenghts and Weaknesses =
......
_______________________________________
That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please let
me know.
Thank you very much.
Att. Leonardo.
25 Feb
25 Feb
3:53 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] structured and unstructured data in the same page using AWM
Hi Leonardo,
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Leonardo Kodato
<leonardokodato(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everybody.
Here I'am again =).
Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some time
ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =). (hope I'm posting in the
right place now).
So, let me answer what Marius asked on
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085
First, let me explain better what I said on Jira:
plain text = unstructured information
dynamic label = properties
dynamic object = structured information
The situation:
I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my
company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've decided to
make a livetable to filter and show the results. I`ve set some parameters
like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be able to easily identify
the Product.
Here is the problem:
Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name,
Category, Applies to, Price).
I`am not able to insert plain
text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc.
When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the
content, but it doesn't show what I had writen.
Which field from the Field Paltte (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+App…
) did you used for the unstructured data?
Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing list
that there was no
reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same place as
structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant to store this type of
data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck).
This is definitely not true. AWM can be used to manage both structured
and unstructured data.
What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or properties(whatever
is the right name =)) to be able to identify and sort the itens(by using
livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need
unstructured + structured data in the same place.
Let me paint you a picture with the example below:
______________________________________
Product name: AGX
Category: Music Stand
Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar.
Price: 30
______________________________________
= Description: =
_______
| Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value
for money you will ever find.,,,
= Strenghts and Weaknesses =
......
_______________________________________
You have two options:
(1) Use the Long Text field or
(2) even better, use the Content field.
The first stores the unstructured content in a TextArea property of an
object attached to the "Product" page (in your case) while the second
stores the unstructured data directly in the content of the Product
wiki page.
Both will offer you a WYSIWYG editor when you add/edit a new
application entry (a new Product in your case), unless you have
choosen to use the wiki editor in your user profile. In any case, you
can put whatever content you want in the text area, and it will be
rendered nicely in view mode. So you can definitely put headings,
images, links, tables, etc, everything you can do with the WYSIWYG
editor or with the wiki syntax. I just checked this and it works.
I'm curious why this didn't work for your.
Hope this helps,
Marius
That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please let
me know.
Thank you very much.
Att. Leonardo.
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
5:52 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] structured and unstructured data in the same page using AWM
Hi Marius.
Thank you for you answer.
Here is the link I read:
http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Default-editing-mode-for-page-with-object…
Maybe I misunderstood what you said in this link.
I'm reading it again and I realized, with the comments you've just made,
that I just need to put the plain text inside of an object like you said.
Sometimes we can see what is in front of our eyes. I'm sorry. It's too much
information to retain in such short time. Xwiki is a great tool and It has
so many features that I never thought Content field would serve as a plain
text editor. My bad.
Thank you for spending your time with this. Sometimes we have silly
questions and we need someone to explain things better. =)
Att,
Leonardo.
2014-02-25 11:53 GMT-03:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
Hi Leonardo,
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Leonardo Kodato
<leonardokodato(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everybody.
Here I'am again =).
Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some time
ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =). (hope I'm posting in the
right place now).
So, let me answer what Marius asked on
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085
First, let me explain better what I said on Jira:
plain text = unstructured information
dynamic label = properties
dynamic object = structured information
The situation:
I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my
company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've decided
to
make a livetable to filter and show the results.
I`ve set some parameters
like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be able to easily identify
the Product.
Here is the problem:
Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name,
Category, Applies to, Price).
I`am not able to insert plain
text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc.
When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the
content, but it doesn't show what I had writen.
Which field from the Field Paltte (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+App…
) did you used for the unstructured data?
Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing
list that there was no
reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same place
as
structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant
to store this type of
data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck).
This is definitely not true. AWM can be used to manage both structured
and unstructured data.
What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or
properties(whatever
is the right name =)) to be able to identify and
sort the itens(by using
livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need
unstructured + structured data in the same place.
Let me paint you a picture with the example below:
______________________________________
Product name: AGX
Category: Music Stand
Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar.
Price: 30
______________________________________
= Description: =
_______
| Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value
for money you will ever find.,,,
= Strenghts and Weaknesses =
......
_______________________________________
You have two options:
(1) Use the Long Text field or
(2) even better, use the Content field.
The first stores the unstructured content in a TextArea property of an
object attached to the "Product" page (in your case) while the second
stores the unstructured data directly in the content of the Product
wiki page.
Both will offer you a WYSIWYG editor when you add/edit a new
application entry (a new Product in your case), unless you have
choosen to use the wiki editor in your user profile. In any case, you
can put whatever content you want in the text area, and it will be
rendered nicely in view mode. So you can definitely put headings,
images, links, tables, etc, everything you can do with the WYSIWYG
editor or with the wiki syntax. I just checked this and it works.
I'm curious why this didn't work for your.
Hope this helps,
Marius
That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please
let
me know.
Thank you very much.
Att. Leonardo.
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
6:05 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] structured and unstructured data in the same page using AWM
Just a side question: There is a way to insert images as a field in the
app?The Field palette doesn't offer this option.
I know there is a way to create new properties(
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/CreatingNewXClassProperty…),
but it requires some work to insert it.
Suggestion: Bundle this new field(image or file) in future releases. It
would be nice to see this feature without the need of making some work in
Wiki's background.
Thank you.
2014-02-25 13:52 GMT-03:00 Leonardo Kodato <leonardokodato(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi Marius.
Thank you for you answer.
Here is the link I read:
http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Default-editing-mode-for-page-with-object…
Maybe I misunderstood what you said in this link.
I'm reading it again and I realized, with the comments you've just made,
that I just need to put the plain text inside of an object like you said.
Sometimes we can see what is in front of our eyes. I'm sorry. It's too
much information to retain in such short time. Xwiki is a great tool and It
has so many features that I never thought Content field would serve as a
plain text editor. My bad.
Thank you for spending your time with this. Sometimes we have silly
questions and we need someone to explain things better. =)
Att,
Leonardo.
2014-02-25 11:53 GMT-03:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
Hi Leonardo,
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Leonardo Kodato
<leonardokodato(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everybody.
Here I'am again =).
Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some
time
ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =).
(hope I'm posting in the
right place now).
So, let me answer what Marius asked on
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085
First, let me explain better what I said on Jira:
plain text = unstructured information
dynamic label = properties
dynamic object = structured information
The situation:
I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my
company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've
decided to
make a livetable to filter and show the results.
I`ve set some
parameters
like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be
able to easily identify
the Product.
Here is the problem:
Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name,
Category, Applies to, Price).
I`am not able to insert plain
text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc.
When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the
content, but it doesn't show what I had writen.
Which field from the Field Paltte (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+App…
) did you used for the unstructured data?
Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing
list that there was no
reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same
place as
structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant
to store this type of
data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck).
This is definitely not true. AWM can be used to manage both structured
and unstructured data.
What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or
properties(whatever
is the right name =)) to be able to identify and
sort the itens(by using
livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need
unstructured + structured data in the same place.
Let me paint you a picture with the example below:
______________________________________
Product name: AGX
Category: Music Stand
Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar.
Price: 30
______________________________________
= Description: =
_______
| Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value
for money you will ever find.,,,
= Strenghts and Weaknesses =
......
_______________________________________
You have two options:
(1) Use the Long Text field or
(2) even better, use the Content field.
The first stores the unstructured content in a TextArea property of an
object attached to the "Product" page (in your case) while the second
stores the unstructured data directly in the content of the Product
wiki page.
Both will offer you a WYSIWYG editor when you add/edit a new
application entry (a new Product in your case), unless you have
choosen to use the wiki editor in your user profile. In any case, you
can put whatever content you want in the text area, and it will be
rendered nicely in view mode. So you can definitely put headings,
images, links, tables, etc, everything you can do with the WYSIWYG
editor or with the wiki syntax. I just checked this and it works.
I'm curious why this didn't work for your.
Hope this helps,
Marius
That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please
let
me know.
Thank you very much.
Att. Leonardo.
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
7:15 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] structured and unstructured data in the same page using AWM
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Leonardo Kodato
<leonardokodato(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Just a side question: There is a way to insert images
as a field in the
app?The Field palette doesn't offer this option.
I know there is a way to create new properties(
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/CreatingNewXClassProperty…),
but it requires some work to insert it.
Suggestion: Bundle this new field(image or file) in
future releases. It
would be nice to see this feature without the need of making some work in
Wiki's background.
This is already reported:
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-8589
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-8590
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-8587
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-8588
we just need time to implement it.
Thanks,
Marius
Thank you.
2014-02-25 13:52 GMT-03:00 Leonardo Kodato <leonardokodato(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi Marius.
Thank you for you answer.
Here is the link I read:
http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Default-editing-mode-for-page-with-object…
Maybe I misunderstood what you said in this link.
I'm reading it again and I realized, with the comments you've just made,
that I just need to put the plain text inside of an object like you said.
Sometimes we can see what is in front of our eyes. I'm sorry. It's too
much information to retain in such short time. Xwiki is a great tool and It
has so many features that I never thought Content field would serve as a
plain text editor. My bad.
Thank you for spending your time with this. Sometimes we have silly
questions and we need someone to explain things better. =)
Att,
Leonardo.
2014-02-25 11:53 GMT-03:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
Hi Leonardo,
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Leonardo Kodato
<leonardokodato(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everybody.
Here I'am again =).
Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some
time
ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =).
(hope I'm posting in the
right place now).
So, let me answer what Marius asked on
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085
First, let me explain better what I said on Jira:
plain text = unstructured information
dynamic label = properties
dynamic object = structured information
The situation:
I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my
company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've
decided to
make a livetable to filter and show the results.
I`ve set some
parameters
like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be
able to easily identify
the Product.
Here is the problem:
Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name,
Category, Applies to, Price).
I`am not able to insert plain
text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc.
When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the
content, but it doesn't show what I had writen.
Which field from the Field Paltte (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+App…
) did you used for the unstructured data?
Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing
list that there was no
reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same
place as
structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant
to store this type of
data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck).
This is definitely not true. AWM can be used to manage both structured
and unstructured data.
What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or
properties(whatever
is the right name =)) to be able to identify and
sort the itens(by using
livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need
unstructured + structured data in the same place.
Let me paint you a picture with the example below:
______________________________________
Product name: AGX
Category: Music Stand
Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar.
Price: 30
______________________________________
= Description: =
_______
| Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value
for money you will ever find.,,,
= Strenghts and Weaknesses =
......
_______________________________________
You have two options:
(1) Use the Long Text field or
(2) even better, use the Content field.
The first stores the unstructured content in a TextArea property of an
object attached to the "Product" page (in your case) while the second
stores the unstructured data directly in the content of the Product
wiki page.
Both will offer you a WYSIWYG editor when you add/edit a new
application entry (a new Product in your case), unless you have
choosen to use the wiki editor in your user profile. In any case, you
can put whatever content you want in the text area, and it will be
rendered nicely in view mode. So you can definitely put headings,
images, links, tables, etc, everything you can do with the WYSIWYG
editor or with the wiki syntax. I just checked this and it works.
I'm curious why this didn't work for your.
Hope this helps,
Marius
That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please
let
me know.
Thank you very much.
Att. Leonardo.
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
7:23 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] structured and unstructured data in the same page using AWM
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Leonardo Kodato
<leonardokodato(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Marius.
Thank you for you answer.
Here is the link I read:
http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Default-editing-mode-for-page-with-object…
Maybe I misunderstood what you said in this link.
{quote}
Once you add an object with a sheet to a
page you basically make that page a structured page and thus the user
needs to edit the structured data when he clicks Edit. It's not a
plain wiki page any more.
{quote}
The fact that the page becomes 'structured' doesn't mean it cannot
hold unstructured information any more. By 'structure' I mean (key,
value) pairs, but the value can have either a very specific type, like
Date, or a generic type, like 'TextArea', which allows you to store
unstructured data (i.e. free text). Moreover, even if the page is
structured (i.e. has an object attached), you can still use the
document content to store unstructured data. This is what the
'Content' field from AWM does.
Hope this helps,
Marius
I'm reading it again and I realized, with the comments you've just made,
that I just need to put the plain text inside of an object like you said.
Sometimes we can see what is in front of our eyes. I'm sorry. It's too much
information to retain in such short time. Xwiki is a great tool and It has
so many features that I never thought Content field would serve as a plain
text editor. My bad.
Thank you for spending your time with this. Sometimes we have silly
questions and we need someone to explain things better. =)
Att,
Leonardo.
2014-02-25 11:53 GMT-03:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
Hi Leonardo,
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Leonardo Kodato
<leonardokodato(a)gmail.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users Hello everybody.
Here I'am again =).
Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some time
ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =). (hope I'm posting in the
right place now).
So, let me answer what Marius asked on
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085
First, let me explain better what I said on Jira:
plain text = unstructured information
dynamic label = properties
dynamic object = structured information
The situation:
I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my
company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've decided
to
make a livetable to filter and show the results.
I`ve set some parameters
like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be able to easily identify
the Product.
Here is the problem:
Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name,
Category, Applies to, Price).
I`am not able to insert plain
text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc.
When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the
content, but it doesn't show what I had writen.
Which field from the Field Paltte (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+App…
) did you used for the unstructured data?
Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing
list that there was no
reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same place
as
structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant
to store this type of
data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck).
This is definitely not true. AWM can be used to manage both structured
and unstructured data.
What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or
properties(whatever
is the right name =)) to be able to identify and
sort the itens(by using
livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need
unstructured + structured data in the same place.
Let me paint you a picture with the example below:
______________________________________
Product name: AGX
Category: Music Stand
Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar.
Price: 30
______________________________________
= Description: =
_______
| Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value
for money you will ever find.,,,
= Strenghts and Weaknesses =
......
_______________________________________
You have two options:
(1) Use the Long Text field or
(2) even better, use the Content field.
The first stores the unstructured content in a TextArea property of an
object attached to the "Product" page (in your case) while the second
stores the unstructured data directly in the content of the Product
wiki page.
Both will offer you a WYSIWYG editor when you add/edit a new
application entry (a new Product in your case), unless you have
choosen to use the wiki editor in your user profile. In any case, you
can put whatever content you want in the text area, and it will be
rendered nicely in view mode. So you can definitely put headings,
images, links, tables, etc, everything you can do with the WYSIWYG
editor or with the wiki syntax. I just checked this and it works.
I'm curious why this didn't work for your.
Hope this helps,
Marius
That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please
let
me know.
Thank you very much.
Att. Leonardo.
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________
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